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JD Free's avatar

Calling someone Hitler has always been a death threat. The only thing that’s been strange is all the people acting like it isn’t.

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Chris Bray's avatar

Well said.

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Rob Mac's avatar

I believe that the intent is probably nefarious. Bad actors are perpetuating a mind virus called Brief Psychotic Disorder (BPD). It is common among cult members and “radicalized” youth. It can be brought on by continuously brainwashing and gaslighting feeble minded subjects. They are driven to engage in horrendous acts, that once completed, they often snap out of their BPD and are horrified by their behavior(s). Subsequently, they enter a stupor of self loathing, depression, regret, shame, and sorrow. The evil that exploits feeble minded subjects does so with intent and a hatred for The Life. This evil is ruthlessly diabolical, anti-human and intentional. In Mattias Desmet’s Book, “The Psychology Of Totalitarianism”, he calls it “Mass Formation.” I better understand it as mass psychosis. He states, as the first of the four conditions needed for this phenomenon to occur, “… is generalized loneliness, social isolation, and lack of social bonds among the population.” Think of the covid lockdowns and the advent of, not so social, social media. And yes, we have also met the other three conditions needed for this tainted recipe, and evil is in the kitchen.

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FuriousIT's avatar

So when do we see them go from the brainwashed stage to the self loathing stage? Their psychotic disorder does not appear so brief.

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Andrea's avatar

In the book he also says 30% of those people, never recover.

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Rob Mac's avatar

I hear you. Brief is a subjective term that implies that the episode is not necessarily permanent.

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Dena's avatar

I’d add - and a trans, furry boyfriend / roommate.

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Throgmorton's avatar

Does that explain the bizarre instant rage you see from leftists when they realise you don't agree with them?

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Rob Mac's avatar

Not necessarily. Some folks are just angry ideologues.

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

Profound and pithy.

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Hollis Brown's avatar

good point.

in fact, the most tired cliche about time travel is that everyone will first go back to kill Hitler.

so, ipso facto, if Trump is Hitler, why wouldn’t murder be permissible?

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Brett Hyland's avatar

Indeed, while confronting Corn Pop will only get you to a racist threat.

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Maria's avatar

'Hitler! Hitler! Hitler!' justifies the killing. Drill it into a person's brain and they start to act accordingly. Especially someone who's been chemically altered through hormone or antidepressant therapy. I mean, who wouldn't want to kill Hitler? You are a daisy if you do.

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Julia's avatar

There was only one Hitler. Second time it's a dog whistle.

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Danny Huckabee's avatar

Great idea: spend time with family and enjoy them and life. But you might want to take time to review your security situation for yourself and them. If Charlie Kirk is a Hitler, then we all are who supported he, and Mr. Hitler himself, Donald Trump.

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Mick's avatar

Eventually, we will all either be Charlie, Irina or Daniel Penny. Our enemies may be evil, but they don't know the meaning of quit.

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Bobby Lime's avatar

That is a brilliant insight.

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James Bernard Shepard's avatar

The great technical discovery by the CIA/MI6/Israeli Military Intelligence [triplets from birth]? That torture can be mass-distributed. You can mass hypnotize people – planting post hypnotic triggers like "conspiracy theorist" – via mass media, especially TV, film and video, and now via smart phones. It's not the medium, it's how it is used and for what purpose. Who owns Hollywood? What is their loyalty?

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Skenny's avatar

Elimination of line-of-sight threats is critical at these outdoor venues. There is apparently an inexhaustible supply of crazed assassins.

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Korpijarvi's avatar

Oh ye of small imagination.

We need a new government agency--a Campus Safety Board--with checkpoints and gropedowns and shoe-removals on every campus.

We need people emptying all their stuff into little baskets so that GS4s can paw them (and take what they'd like), and more surveillance cameras, and wait lines to discourage people from using campuses, and total ID checks for anyone going to campuses, or even crossing them.

How else will we end the scourage of planned/orchestrated politically motivated ...oops, I mean TOTALLY MYSTERIOUS violence...I mean TERRORISM!?!?

With all due respect, have you been asleep since Butler, PA, never mind "covid"? They want to end public gatherings of anyone who disagrees with their regime. You don't remember how "covid" was an instantaneous death speck to anyone attending a Trump rally, but would passover those burning down cities with BLM riots?

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Skenny's avatar

Not sure what your point is, but here's mine:

If I had been in charge of security in Butler PA or Utah Valley State, I would have secured all line-of-sight access points at the venue prior to the events. During the events, I would have enhanced this established security by scanning for long range threats with high quality optics, and private channel communications. The good guys would command the high spots and remote vantage points.

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Korpijarvi's avatar

My point is I envy your innocence/naivete that those who for centuries and millennia create bloody events for psychological impact/political power can be easily defeated with trigonometry, and better prosthetic eyes and ears.

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Skenny's avatar

You would be naive to think that I could not secure a venue from long distance, stealth threats, like those that have been used against Trump and Kirk. They are very easily defeated. Try again. Maybe imagine a nuke this time.

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Korpijarvi's avatar

Ah, the deus ex nukular.

Nah, my concerns are more with that scalar stuff. Which is no doubt playing out all around us in a thousand ways unrecognized.

But again, it's sweet that you can cuddle inside this sense that "they are easily defeated." A big megalomaniac, and boomerish, but far be it from me to begrudge another person whatever they need to get through the day with sanity intact.

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Bjorn LaSanche's avatar

Treat all campus functions as TSA did right after 9/11. Do not staff the CSB with alumni nor current employees of the school so they are not beholden to the school administration. Reasoning is that it is shown to be quite apparent that school administration across the board has zero interest in providing a safe learning environment for students where they can all feel safe to express varying ideas and discuss them in rationally expected formats. You have a good idea.

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Richard Parker's avatar

COVID was a truly selective and miraculous virus.

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angel k's avatar

YES EXACTLY. How much MORE control over our lives will be attempted in the wake of Charlies murder? Disguised as "for our safety?"

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Charlotte's avatar

Shouldn’t be too difficult to get someone to fly a drone around during similar events looking for people on roof tops and open windows. If seen, get the speaker off the stage ASAP.

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Bjorn LaSanche's avatar

If seen make sure it’s the type of drone that Ukraine is using against Russian personnel. Just drop a grenade on the threat or the drone itself is the explosive itself.

I mean do we really need to get to this level? Apparently the idea should be at least on the table.

I am of the mind that campus security, meaning campus police needs to be air gapped and removed from the potential of interruption of any and all higher education campus administration. This way it keeps everyone honest and observing what’s been going on at college and university campuses over the past 20years proves beyond a shadow of doubt that school administrations do not have student safety in anything but an afterthought. Period. Kids in elementary through high school have to pass through metal detectors to enter a school building, why not so on higher education? With all the shootings since 2000 one would think that’s a no brainer. This would include dorms and offsite residential areas as well which surround any given campus. School administrations always want to claim in loco parents but except K-12 they sure as hell don’t take student safety seriously.

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JasonT's avatar

Gonna be tough. Windows work as well as rooftops, and there are a lot of them. Let's work on getting the crazies the treatment they need and stop affirming their illness.

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Skenny's avatar

It takes effort, but it's not particularly tough. Some venues aren't appropriate and every one is different. We learned long ago that driving presidents in open convertibles by windows that open on higher floors is not a good idea.

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JasonT's avatar

So, no more open air events? How about we take the Left at their word and crush their terrorist movement. Regain our country and freedoms. A modest proposal, of course.

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Skenny's avatar

How about, no more open air events that aren't adequately secured from a sniper perspective. I'm surprised after the attack on Trump, where the Secret Service dropped the ball, that this would be a point of contention.

It's exactly what the Secret Service is paid to do. I don't know what Kirk's team was expected to do. I know what I would have done in both cases had I been in charge.

It's Secret Service 101.... Not complicated.

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JasonT's avatar

Who all gets that level of protection? Seems rational to deal with the threat rather than all live in a cage. Yes, we need an increase of IQ in our security forces.

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Bjorn LaSanche's avatar

I can almost guarantee that campus administration along with lackeys campus police would t allow for that level of security measures taken. All in the name of student privacy or high level security would make snowflakes self conscious about their safety and might frighten them too much. Which is why I’ve stated campus police and campus administration be air gapped and campus police to liaison with event coordinators in security measures up to including advisory to coordinators on security and provide a safe environment or one which will be exponentially more difficult to cause problems. Campus administration be damned. They’ve proven across the board to be ineffectual at best and complicit at worst in providing campus safety for students with an iron fist over controlling campus police.

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Bandit's avatar

The treatment they need is cyanide.

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Richard Parker's avatar

It will be standard now.

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David Silverberg's avatar

Alan, you make an interesting point... but then inject the word "dumf*ck" into the argument to suggest something beyond your comment. No, not every security team has drone surveillance at schools. And IMHO if it comes to that then better we shut the schools down.

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David Silverberg's avatar

Yes, in hindsight he was a special case. But IMHO we should focus on the bad guys instead of self-blame for things not evil.

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Velociraver's avatar

The only two people in US politics to publicly call Trump "Hitler", are both Republicans 🤡

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JT's avatar
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Now that’s just silly! Hank Johnson and Kamala Harris both referred to Trump as Hitler, and They’re both Democrats. And if you’re counting RFKjr, that was before he joined the Republican Party.

The real point to be made is how often the MSM repeated that idiotic slur? If one person says it, but 100 newspapers, TV stations and websites repeat it in endless loops, it has an enormous impact on the the public’s perception. That’s the real problem!

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Name Invalid's avatar

The emotional rush of self righteously calling someone Hitler is a drug. It is becoming less effective, so like addicts, they need every higher doses to receive ever less rush.

And we are finally not letting them.

And I know what it looks like to be really hurt and angry. Erika Kirk for example.

I don't buy the hurt and angry performances from Senator Warren, AOC, the paid protesters at my local Tesla dealership etc.

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Skenny's avatar

Name-calling is the peak intellectual pursuit of the cry-bully class.

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Velociraver's avatar

Replace "Hitler" with "anti-semite" for a more accurate read.

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No name here's avatar

Lomez had a very good idea on Auron Macintyre's show yesterday. One that is peaceful and likely to bring about and maintain a massive cultural shift... A Charlie Kirk museum that documents everything that has happened over the last decade or so. The anti white garbage, the censorship, the gender make-believe (including mutilation and sterilization of kids), the race riots, Covid... All of it.

I'd like to see, for example, an exhibit where you can interact with an AI that gives you all the day's "news" in, say, October of 2016... An AI that lies to you, repeatedly, then you can ask it to see clips of CNN or MSNBC where it was originally stated.

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Linda Bray's avatar

Brilliant idea. Riley Gaines reported that donations are pouring into TPUSA so you should pass your idea along to them. Rest in peace, Charlie Kirk!

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Korpijarvi's avatar

Little Benjy Shapiro welcomes their shekels.

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Bobby Lime's avatar

Why don't you spontaneously combust? You're one of the creeps, and no, your not "our" creep.

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Steenroid's avatar

That would blow their little pea brains.

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MR's avatar

Excellent idea. Maybe an actual physical museum and a virtual version for the people who can’t or won’t go.

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Cathleen Manny's avatar

Don’t need AI for this. Don’t you realize how evil AI is?

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No name here's avatar

LLMs are predictive statistical models. Not Satan. They could be used for all kinds of interesting things to help people learn about, say 2016 until now. It can also be used for semantic search, like "who and when was Charlie called a Nazi"? without having to know the actual words to search for.

It could provide a great way for kids of the future to learn about the complete insanity of the political left that we lived through. Imagine showing a school kid a virtual Joy Reid in 2050. They'd walk away with understanding what a sick, ignorant, racist bitch she is. And if there was any question, the raw video could be shown.

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David Silverberg's avatar

I love the idea... and for those who fear LLMs (AI), like a lot if things tech, they are powerful but if kept outside of the hands if the bad guys, they could be useful. Anyway, something interactive like the Ronald Reagan museum would be great. We should not forget.

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No name here's avatar

No doubt. Tech is very dangerous. It created Covid and was used to power the censorship regime that followed. With AI, drones, and whatever comes next, we could easily find ourselves in nightmarish totalitarianism.

So in some respects, I agree with Cathleen. I also agree with most of Ted Kazinsky's criticism of tech (particularly in the hands of leftists)... But luddites never successfully prevent anything, so accept the world we live in and leverage tech to your own ends whenever possible.

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ANG Pilot's avatar

I wish there was a way to teleport all of these people back to mid 1930's Germany so they could meet some real Nazis.

Speaking of which, Democrats are using the same tactics Goebbels used against the Jews. The real Nazis used every artifice available to a propagandist to dehumanize Jews in the eyes of the general population and that's exactly what Democrats are doing to conservatives.

When you strip away all of the insincere niceties mouthed by Democrat "leaders" in the wake of Kirk's murder what you get from them is: he brought it on himself and he got what he deserved.

Exactly the sort of callous reaction you'd expect from people who consider conservatives the new untermenschen.

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Velociraver's avatar

Seek some therapy 🤣

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ANG Pilot's avatar

After you...

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Tricia's avatar

My father and uncle did. Not teleport, of course, but they fought, were imprisoned by and almost killed by actual Nazis in WWII. My point about this is that, when I tell people what actual Nazis were like (according to my dad and uncle), I just get a blank stare.

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Korpijarvi's avatar

Kek. My goodness.

Well, I guess somebody has to stay in the 1980s-90s and hold down the Hollywood fort.

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alwayscurious's avatar

This is where the mimetic culture takes people, anti gun folk actually cheering murder; they're not even saying the gun killed as the gun control advocates have claimed for decades, but that the victim "deserved" the shot from the person who took aim.

As for Hitler, now we have a sense of how masses in mimetic fervor supported their fuhrer.

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CB's avatar

Exactly. Our loving leftists have dropped their masks and are now like the drunken crowd at a lynching.

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Velociraver's avatar

Err, no...that was the right wing commentary right up until the moment the killer was found to be a white kid from a Republican family, when suddenly the focus turned from vengeance to "mental health" 🤣

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CB's avatar

This thread is about deranged lefties celebrating the death of a conservative. They haven't changed their opinion of Kirk based on the identify of the shooter, and conservatives haven't changed their opinion of the shooter. Besides, people who knew the shooter say he was the only rabid leftie in a Republican family. Maybe a Democrat family wouldn't have turned him in?

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Velociraver's avatar

Bullshit and copium. Conservatives have completely flipped on their stance since it came out that the shooter was from the "home team", and there's myriad evidence in hundreds of Substacks from sympathetic authors. Fuck them and fuck Charlie, he was a waste of oxygen and a detriment to society. Nobody is going to re-cast Kirk as anything but a religious nutbag with a megaphone.

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CB's avatar

Can't find your post where you called Kirk a genocide apologist. From what I read (never followed the guy), that may have been the case at one time, but he was turning on Israel. I saw the following clip posted by American Muslim Kevin Barrett at Unz Review:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipW5sLfDt6c

Seems you're celebrating the murder of someone who was turning your way.

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Velociraver's avatar

The fact that Kirk "may" have finally come around to admit what has been happening for over 700 days in no way erases any of his other hateful utterances and opinions. Too little, too late. Good riddance.

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Meri-Lyn Stark's avatar

And are you pointing out all the family connections for all the assassins of the last few years? I’m sorry but many families have unwell members and that doesn’t make the whole family evil left or right. It does ruin a lot of their lives tho😢

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Throgmorton's avatar

Do keep up. The shooter was a radical leftist living with his transgender boyfriend.

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Velociraver's avatar

I don't care if he was a right/left, ambidextrous, amphibious, pink and blue furrie...good riddance to him and his bullshit.

Not my circus, not my monkeys 🤡

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Throgmorton's avatar

And it is becoming clear that he was not a lone wolf. At least 20 far-leftists so far have been identified on social media as having foreknowledge of the attack, and possibly providing material support. The net may well expand even wider.

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Velociraver's avatar

🤣🤣🤣 Well if that net is cast by Kash "valhalla" Patel, nobody on "the left" need fear for their freedom. Thanks for the laugh.

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Morgan Leake's avatar

The sole leftist from the family, according to his family and friends.

By the way, his MAGA t-shirt was photoshopped.

Latest reports are that Tyler Robinson was living with a transgender woman…. but that has not yet been confirmed.

You are a joke.

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Tricia's avatar

"Transgender woman" = man.

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Korpijarvi's avatar

You're so right. Life was utopian and bucolic in Weimar.

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Geary Johansen's avatar

I just read an article on substack by Andrew Doyle which had mention of the fact that the guy who invented Godwin's Law wrote an article about why 'Trump is Hitler' should be excluded from the generalisation that calling people Nazis is bad.

I kid you not, the article in the Washington Post was entitled "Yes, it’s okay to compare Trump to Hitler. Don’t let me stop you".

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PapayaSF's avatar

I encountered Mike Godwin online years ago, and yes, he’s not as wise as his law.

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Geary Johansen's avatar

I'll tell you who was wise- Jerry Pournelle!

https://www.jerrypournelle.com/reports/jerryp/iron.html

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PapayaSF's avatar

True. I met him once. Nice guy.

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Geary Johansen's avatar

Oh wow! What was he like? I only know him from his writing.

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PapayaSF's avatar

I got him to autograph a book at a convention. One he cowrote with Niven. The funny thing was that since Niven didn’t do autographs due to carpel tunnel syndrome, Jerry would sign his own name, then make an X, and write “Niven his mark” as if Niven were illiterate.

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Geary Johansen's avatar

Have you tried The Peacemaker's Code by Deepak Malhotra? There is a small annoying segment which romanticises the preindustrial period, but it's a great story, well-paced plot and it really explores group dynamics in some highly insightful ways.

For a more conventional space opera read, The Return to the Galaxy series by BA Gillies is well-worth a read, although he's a new author- only three books so far.

Any recommendations which are relatively obscure would be much appreciated. I've exhausted all the popular top 10 and top 20 lists and even most AIs aren't much help.

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mileytheduchess's avatar

There is nothing so healing as nature. I hope a trip to the mountains is in the works.

The emotional tension generated by the murder of Charlie Kirk is moving in waves throughout the world, not only in our country.

I remember how I liked to create waves in the bathtub as a child, sliding back and forth. What was unexpected is how they got bigger after I stopped, and began to slop over the edges of the tub as though they had a life of their own. This is what has been unleashed.

We're entering a long period of change that will be very taxing. It's important to give ourselves moments of tranquility.

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Korpijarvi's avatar

Welcome to the Kali Yuga Surf Club.

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Susan Stellato's avatar

💗 this

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CB's avatar

Hadn't heard of Ruth Marshall, but you can't deny the gynecological insights of a specialist in "Pentecostalism and citizenship in Nigeria and Côte d’Ivoire."

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Karl's avatar

The fake resistance had been play-acting for so long that they forgot the meaning of the words they’ve co-opted. They also forgot that a new generation, unaware of the play-acting, might take the words seriously and literally, acting out in reality what was just a self-indulgent fantasy for their elders.

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Willy's avatar

Once more Chris thank you for “writing the same damn article every time.”

The humor the simplicity and the gonzo absurdity. I look forward to it in a unique way vs other content. There is never a TLDR on this stack.

The best way to explore and counter the darkness is with a sense of fun and lightheartedness.

You’re exposing and discussing things here without hardening hearts in the process.

God bless you my fellow Californian and enjoy your family.

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Throgmorton's avatar

Roger Scruton noted that leftist vituperation is akin to magical incantation. When they call you 'hitlerfascistphobicist!!!!' they are branding you, not describing you. It is an act, not an adjective.

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JasonT's avatar

Iryna Zarutska needed protection, too. Must we all be in a cage. She wanted freedom. Why can't we give all the Irynas that?

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Jeff's avatar

So using Dr Marshalls logic if someone thinks she is a fascist they can shoot her and she wouldn’t complain. Right?

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Teresa Maupin's avatar

“Hate has no home here, so all of you Nazis should be killed.” Sadly, this is actually how the woke left thinks. They proved it with all their comments after Charlie’s assassination. Glad you’re taking a breather with your family, Chris. While the internet will ultimately save Western civilization, refreshing breaks are needed!

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Mike Mags's avatar

If this administration is fascist and Trump is Hitler, the people constantly calling him such would have been disappeared, removed, gathered up, arrested, tortured, shot dead. Havnt seen not even an eekling of any such activity. Thats weird.

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