These "media" outlets continue to wade in the sewage. They are paid to lie and divide the populace. There is nothing they would not do for money. There is not an ounce of collective moral character amongst them.
Note that Matthew Dowd was originally a Democrat, then served as chief strategist for George W. Bush in the 2004 presidential race, but later reverted to Democrat, making him a perfect MSNBC "conservative." Just on a hunch, I searched on Matthew Dowd + Lincoln Project, and sure enough, he's been adjacent to the RINO boy diddlers.
Ryan, you’ve done it again. 👍 I’ve been trying to come up with a bullet point list how to spot midwits in the wild. Your list comes close to perfect. I would add, “slavish adherence to dogma”, and “incapable of original thought”.
But the topper is “small dick energy”! Consider it stolen!
I just posted this comment in unreported truths but it seems to really connect with what you just wrote, Chris.
I feel like I’m reliving the ‘60s suddenly. I was just turning 8 when Kennedy was shot, then MLK, RFK, George Wallace, anarcho-marxist bombings, Manson Family murders (I grew up Hollywood Hills adjacent) and then terrorism exploding into the ‘70s. It wasn’t a proud time for me, even though I’m called a boomer. All of that poison seems to be conjuring up again via my peers in college who went into academia with their ideological delusions. I’m overwhelmed with sadness.
Much of the craziness and violence in the 60's and 70's was intentional from the deep state cockroaches under programs such as Operation Gladio and MK Ultra, including the Manson murders. It may well be deep state swamp creatures using their creativity again to cause chaos in this country. Remember always the question, who benefits; I can think of many.
The best case right now is Chris's read. That's being hopeful. If there are intelligence or org crime connections of any kind this will be hard for the right to process. God help us.
His Turning Point USA group also hosted Tucker Carlson's speech in Tampa earlier this year, where Tucker said Epstein was working for Israel and “every single person in Washington D.C.” thinks the same. He added, “I’ve never met anyone who doesn’t think that. I don’t know any of them that hate Israel. But no one feels they can say that.”
Agree in part. There are definitely those in government, in NGOs, & billionaires (Soros, et. al.) who want society to fragment and fight each other.
This is also the result of an out of control vaccine schedule combined with who knows what else pharmaceutical voodoo, causing neurological damage that sometimes results not only in gender dysphoria, but sadly complete disassociation with reality leading to crime.
If I knew what PTSD was I’d say this is it. Weird because I’ve never read anything by Charlie Kirk or listened to his videos or podcasts. It’s just so immoral, the epitome of virtue signaling, all of it, no bravery, nothing constructive, just toxic narcissism. The assholes dancing in tick tock videos, while his family grieves. I’m sorry if you’re feeling the same way because it isn’t pleasant . . .
Charlie was not someone I followed but I did see some of his videos. He fostered debate in respectful ways. I’m flashing back to Bobby Kennedy at the Ambassador in LA. The Left just cannot tolerate debate.
My mother woke me up to watch what was unfolding after RFK was shot. I’m still trying to decode Marshall McLuhan, but I definitely feel as though the medium amplifies the message.
Ideology has no room for debate. A person who subscribes to an ideology must accept every tenet, or you end up like Trotsky.
I was also eight when JFK was assassinated and my family lived in Arlington, Va. We stood on the DC streets with thousands to watch the funeral procession. My impressions from that time have stayed with me. My grandmother died in her sleep the night RFK was shot; it broke her heart.
After the murders of innocents while at Mass, and of a young Ukrainian refugee who loved her new country, I didn’t think I could feel more heartsick. Today made me feel the heartache is only beginning for us. As Neil Young wrote way back then: “This much madness is too much sorrow.”
McLuhan and Christopher Lasch (“The Culture of Narcissism”) were two of the early warning sirens for our age. If I were a religious rabbit, I would think we were in The End Times.
This is strange - I was just turning 9 when JFK was killed and I grew up Hollywood Hills, too, right underneath the Hollywood sign. We weren't far from the murders of the LaBianca husband and wife. I remember the "love-ins" at the time every Sunday in Griffith Park. It wasn't a proud time for me either. This is just sad.
These aren’t memories I purposely dredge up, but as far back as JFK I always felt for the families. I’m sure it was the image of little Caroline and JFK jr in the funeral parade. All such needless pain.
Reminds me of South Park guys selling out to Paramount. It’s fine to make fun of our current president and his administration but there was a complete lack of that during Obama’s three (not a typo) terms. The hypocrisy is astounding.
Same here. I was eight for JFK, thirteen for RFK, MLK. I watched campuses burn with rage. The seventies were pure chaos. You mentioned PTSD, I had never thought about it until Butler. I had an overwhelming feeling of fear, not for myself, but immediately going to “what’s next will be worse”. Today I saw the Kirk shooting clip raw on X and it shook me to my core. We’re heading down a dark road that many of us have seen coming for quite a while. This is the end of the beginning.
Am I Chris' oldest subscriber? I was 14 when JFK was murdered, you all can do the math for the others. 1968 was a frightening year. Is 2025 to be another?
I was 8 in 1968, old enough to remember RFK and MLK’s assassinations. And see what the fallout of Sixties and Seventies was like, as you described. Someone asked me once how I could be so conservative, growing up in SF at that time; I said, “Because I grew up watching all that.” Yesterday brought back bad memories. Rest eternal grant Charlie, oh Lord.
I saw JFK when his motorcade passed through the city during the last month of the 1960 campaign. I was 4. I was in 1st grade when he was assassinated, and the teacher stopped class and told us to pray. It's been a lifetime, and everything has changed, but nothing has changed.
As a GenXer, I’m glad you posted this — thank you. I’ve felt for a while that the ‘80s and ‘90s were an unusually idyllic time in which to grow up and come of age, Cold War and MAD notwithstanding, and today got me wondering if this was what the ‘60s felt like.
Late sixties to the late seventies were a period of extreme chaos. I’m a boomer that lived it. The overwhelming zeitgeist was rage and despair. Yes, my feelings of Deja vu are very strong. The throwback is apt, as will be the blowback.
When people cheer the death of a man like Charlie Kirk, the middle ground is gone. Kirk was a pragmatic, calm, knowledgeable debater. He allowed his opponents to speak uninterrupted, he was often yelled at, and even laughed at, he never lost his cool. He simply debated the issue and presented his side. He would allow anyone to challenge him. His assasination had 1 purpose, to shut conservatives up, full stop. The shot was 200 yards and a precision kill shot, not some novice shooter. These people are out for blood and they want all opposing voices silenced, stat.
A 200 yard shot like this requires basic marksmanship skill, the type that several million deer hunters, ex-servicemen or other competent shooters possess. Shots beyond 400 yards begin to stretch the abilities of casual, but proficient, shooters.
It's not the 200 yards that suggests professionalism to me--it's ingress, egress, and getting away; and now supposedly leaving behind a trans/antifa-decorated rifle as a message or diversion.
It's inevitable at this point. Not just in the US but here in the UK and in Europe. I guess when all Western countries are in civil war it would be a world war.
Early reports suggest a 'sniper rifle' but given the Left's inability to discern the difference between a stock and barrel, early reports should be treated with scepticism. My wild ass guess is that it will probably be something in the AR-10 or other Sporting Rifle range. The AR-10 and other rifles like it are easily disassembled in very short periods of time.
The problem for investigators is that it's a college campus. Backpacks were likely everywhere. Unless the shooter was exceptionally stupid, standard backpacks could have been used to carry a disassembled rifle from the scene.
There are 16,000 shooting ranges in the US. 30-40% have a range of 200 yards or more. The investigators could get lucky. The shooter might have been stupid enough to train at a formal range within 3 hours driving distance from the campus. There are 15 formal sites in range, and 10+ informal sites. Social media is another possibility. Shooters of all types in this category are generally social isolated, have absent fathers and have heavy online engagement. Fob or swipe records of building entry might be another avenue to pursue.
Per the MSNBC website -- "Illinois Gov. JB Pritzker expressed his sympathies for Kirk and warned at a press conference that “there are people who are fomenting [political violence] in this country. I think the president’s rhetoric often foments it.”
Pritzker blaming Trump -- what an ass. If anyone ever needed proof that these guys are evil, here you go.
Yes, I heard that. How will he use it to be more dictatorial. Remember, it's the guns, or the lack of transgender-affirming care because of Trump. Odds are the shooter is transgender.
Not hardly was “the shooter a transgender”. This “assassination” was done by a “professional”. Haven’t heard of too many ‘transgender he/she professional for hire shooters ”.
Military men and cops become autogynephilic transgenders way out of proportion to their numbers. There are a multitude of manly men out there wearing bustiers and eye shadow and plotting violence.
The term is actually “autogynephilic transsexual” not “trans gender”. And apparently this ‘diagnosis’ is under scrutiny. And doesn’t fit what you are describing. It’s ‘sexual’ in nature, not about wearing women’s clothes and makeup.
Wearing a bustier and eye shadow does not make someone trans …more like a ‘cross dresser’. And do these “autogynephilic transgenders” parade around wearing their AR 15’s slung over their bustiers like a cross body handbag?
I hope people realize that Charlie was a born again Christian before anything else and they put their trust in the God of the Bible to save us and provide ultimate justice.
What the left doesn't realize is that this will galvanize conservatives, Christians and all Americans repulsed by this senseless act. And I pray, it will lead to a great spiritual revival in our country.
Yes... this knowledge gives me great comfort. But sadness for his young family keeps the tears coming. I hope we all honor Charlie by following in his footsteps, telling the Truth with courage for the love of our country.
It's just.....I just think about his kids. My eldest loved Charlie, watched him on YouTube all the time. He was a fantastic role model for millions of young people, he connected with young people and let them talk and heard them, like nobody else. And some fcker destroyed that. 😭
Yeah that looked like a professional sniper hit from a distance. Unfortunatley, a good shot too. This is worrisome. More hits may be coming. This is terrorism, made to shut down conservative debate. I hope they get the shooter(s) soon because if they don't I fear this is just the beginning.
If the guy escaped with thousands of people there to see, I expect them to find a patsy (LHO#2?) who then is shot by someone dying of stomach cancer before he can point out that he had nothing to do with it. We've seen this all before.
Truthbird - I hope you don’t take this as an attack but I’ve seen a lot of people saying things along this line so I wanted to provide some context.
I am a former Marine scout-sniper so I know a bit about long range shooting.
To use a mundane analogy: The vast majority of people have neither the knowledge nor the equipment to change their own oil, but with just a little bit of knowledge and some basic equipment it becomes a relatively trivial task. Taking apart and rebuilding an engine, on the other hand, requires at least professional level knowledge if not an actual professional.
A 200-yard shot from a prone, supported position is an oil-change shot. Give me a good rifle/scope combo and an hour on a range with you and I guarantee I’d have you making consistent 200-yard shots with ease. And I’d spend at least half the time showing you how to zero your rifle. You’d be shocked – perhaps horrified – at how easy it is.
At 200 yards neither windage nor bullet drop are meaningful factors, much less the more esoteric influences on flight path. All you need is a good zero and the ability to hold the rifle steady. Shooting from the prone off of either a bipod or support bag makes the 'hold it steady' part easy.
Of course that doesn’t mean the shooter was NOT a professional, just that it wasn’t necessary. This could have easily been some trantifa goon with a gun fetish.
Now those young people like your son, need to pick up the torch and the mantle of truth and conservative values and carry Charlie’s message far and wide! 💪🏼🇺🇸💥
He does, believe me! It's difficult here in the UK atm hence my absence from this stack for a while, but he says his views won't change because they are informed by his morals and his values. He's a good kid, and I'm very proud of him.
It’s part of something larger that transcends destroying solely humans. It’s the destruction of what is “ humanity”.
History, beauty and all things relevant to life, whether living or memorialized.
It hit me like a ton of bricks with a single event. A wake up call. Seeing Notre Dame in flames. And the inexplicably bizarre reaction. None.
What more symbolic of France than the exquisite cathedral? The twin steeples,gargoyles, the symbol of Christianity, history? The only landmark as recognizable and “ French” is the Eiffel Tower.
The French “ leadership” and global media immediately wrote it off as an “ incident, likely attributable to a careless workman leaving a lit cigarette near a dry wood beam”. Case closed. Nary a peep from the beacon of virtuosity, anti-Pope Francis.
Arson? Sssh!
All the forest fires consuming California, Canada, Texas, Australia.. raging infernos. “ Climate Change”
Arson? Sssh!
Slashing, defacing famous works of art in famous museums in the name of “ Climate Change”
Because it’s DaVinci’s and Van Gogh’s fault, dammit!
Spray painting the monoliths of Stonehenge. No biggie. Thirty + years ago I stepped over the rope surrounding the barrier and was nearly arrested. Stonehenge is an amazing mystery. Spiritual. So defiling it with red spray paint is okay. Deserving of destruction.
Targeting Sydney Sweeney. All 5’3” of her. A beautiful young woman. Motivated by insane, irrational hatred.
The tiny, delicate, beautiful Ukrainian girl minding her own business on her way home from work. Because she was white. And NOBODY did a damn thing to help.
The horrific exposure of the Fauci directed torture of thousands of Beagle PUPPIES. Puppies! A caricature in the NYT.
Shinzo Abe assassination. Nothing
The assassinations of the beautiful young Israeli diplomats.. engaged. They weren’t Jewish, which made it even “ better”. Showing America what happens to those who support “Jewwwzzz”
Today it’s Charlie. Who has been demonized in ways so dishonestly, despicably and hatefully by the media and the NGO globalists who own them. Who sponsor the hatred and divide. The “ protests”, the violence… and not a damned thing has yet to have been done to expose and end this evil.
We need a “ Great Reset” . It begins with the annihilation of the UN/WEF/WHO /CFR/Trilateral Commission and the matrix of ancillary tentacles.
Yup. The Final Revolution. Transhumanized Technotyranny
The Post-1984 Brave New World
Huxley was right.
I’ve watched as much of the Charlie compilocrap from the conservacrap cutouts over the past 6 hours and nary a mention of his exposure of the WEF Great Reset/UN Agenda 2030/WHO Pandemic Treaty.. the rigged/ overturned/denied elections, coups, assassinations and assassination attempts , prosecution , imprisonment of duly elected leaders or leading candidates and banned independent parties. And the installation of WEF YGLs.. globally.
Charlie Kirk hammered the plan.. the dissolution of nation states, the Marxist/Islamist Red/Green Alliance .. the distractions and chaos to usher in the One World Order.
Nary a mention by any of the “ brilliant I love the sound of my own voice” experts. But on and on about Charlie’s Christianity.
The difference between Charlie’s Faith and theirs was Charlie didn’t “ read” the Bible, he understood the depth. Hindus who immerse themselves in spiritual depth of Hinduism. Who understand the symbolism of the gods- the balance that is life- are of the same awareness. Ditto Buddhists, Jews, Deists.. it’s the message within the medium.
Everything else is a veneer. And even as the veneer is being stripped away to the rusted, crumbling grid, they don’t see it. They don’t see the pattern, they don’t connect the dots . They cannot all be that obtuse and those who know what’s going on and remain silent are evil by default. They’re complicit.
I realize how off the rails I seem. Perhaps I am, but something, if not everything, is very wrong and it’s not just my eccentricity.
It’s all platitudes and condemnations without any subtext.
Nor is there any curiosity, either.
I despise everything the left stands for, but I’m not to the right on everything, either and it is so tiresome hearing the constant “ us vs them” and being spoken for. So pedantically . I don’t like the shift to hyper-religiosity on the right. These idiots sound like Elmer Gantry, but minus the eloquence. They’re proselytizing and it’s a turn off.
It's weird to think the Left used to be my tribe. Everything changed after Covid. That was the turning point for me. I'm a recovering socialist. All the sane dialog and truth-seeking came from the Right, and continues to do so. But like you, I now see Left and Right as constructs whose purpose is that we fight each other instead of the real enemy, the 0.0001% who control the world.
Anyone who celebrates an assassination is mentally unstable. I don’t care who it is. They have every right to disagree with ideas but to celebrate is SICKENING. The crisis is worse than we know. 😢
The Left is obsessed with politics. We on the other side just want to be left alone. Guess who monopolizes the "debate," if one still goes on after this.
100%. But of course non-violently and within the rule of law.
Normies can see the distinction between tribes and the political vibe shift in the nation is real. The fact that voter registration in every single state that tracks party affiliation shows a significant drop in team blue exactly matched by a corresponding rise in team red means something. We’re witnessing an extinction level event of the politics of nihilism.
"I know this message will seem strange in this moment, but the violent lashing out isn’t a sign of strength. It’s the sign of cultural death, and evidence that the people who want to destroy disagreement are deeply, painfully aware that they cannot convince."
And this (just like all the other topics you mention) will drive away the sanest people but be embraced by the element who remains.
The difference between us and them is we celebrate life, while they celebrate death. The current left are a death cult, and have been for years. Death is their deity, and they are fanatics. The sane adults among us must mock and shame them into irrelevance. Although,a good beat down sounds more and more appealing.
In the movie Sodom and Gomorrah (the 50s version), when Stewart Granger asks the queen why she didn't flee when the city was burning around her, that she'd die if she stayed, she said that they celebrated death.
Yes, Charlie was murdered precisely because he was tolerant and willing to debate. He was convincing and charming and showed people on the political fence a human side of conservatism. That was unforgiveable because that shows the shallowness of progressive ideas. He was convincing and that damned him. I have no words.
Maybe Charlie was murdered because the left is declaring war. They are losing and are running out of options. I think when the dust settles we will find NGO's funded by the likes of Reid Hoffman at the bottom of this sewer.
Charlie had power. and “they” knew it. He was admired & revered by the next generation; too threatening to the powerful on the left. I don’t think the shooter is some random, suicidal mentally disturbed kid. This seemed professional, well planned out. One kill shot to the target & gone.
If you go to Charlie's YouTube channel and watch the video entitled "Charlie Kirk VS The Washington State Woke Mob" one thing is strikingly clear: The dude was patient, he was calm, he was affable. They would insult him and trivialize him and he would smile and tease out more good willed conversation. He was EVERYTHING that they were not. We lost a good man today, a kind soul who is now with God in eternity. His family though....that's where I start getting angry. Someone also stole a loving father from his family today.
'For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the cosmic powers over this present darkness, against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly places.' /// God speed Charlie.
9/11 didn't shock me as this has. America has always had foreign enemies. I don't think I have been as shocked by a murder since John Lennon's, and that was a murder for personal reasons. This compares very well with the MLK assassination.
Plenty of disagreements with the left, but also among conservatives, as seen by Bobby's response. Given this is the anniversary, here's my favorite 5-minute analysis:
You are 💯 percent correct Chris. And may I add this is a classic spiritual problem: ". . comes from an impotent rage over the limits of personal will." Also, one shot? Professional hit likely. Needs a massive investigation. Also Gabbard submitted evidence of Treason by Obama.
One shot and apparently a successful escape in the face of a crowd, as the person arrested for the shooting has been released and the police say he was the wrong guy.
Somewhat suspicious that Kirk was responding to a question about gun violence, and that the old bastard now released was said to be shouting "shoot him." Hope someone's taking a closer look at the questioner and the geezer, because it seems too coincidental that someone makes a surgical single shot from 200 feet (reported by some as 200 yards) at just that moment.
I know he wasn't the shooter (video shows apparent shooter on a roof), but was he part of the stagecraft: "Right-wing extremist shot while defending gun owners!"?
Yes so possible conspiracy. As Trump wrote: "No one understood or had the Heart of the Youth in the United States of America better than Charlie." Well that's quite a target
"Charlie Kirk shot hell yes."
https://x.com/choeshow/status/1965876647485391345/photo/1
Demonic
Have you noticed no one on the Left or in MSM is saying we need gun control after a model American citizen was murdered?
He wasn't shot. He was ASSASSINATED!
Not sure where I read this — it could’ve been here:
Someone quipped that Trump, the master troll could “make” the left come out in support of ANYTHING, no matter how monstrous, simply by being FOR it.
Trump wants to deport a human trafficker; so the left has to defend human trafficking.
Trump bombs a cartel boat; the left has to defend cartels.
And the best one … Trump wants to ban transgenders from having guns, so the left has to defend the right to arms!
If Trump said don't drink piss, the Left would drink bottles of urine to hydrate
Very true. The refusal to see that Hydroxychloroquine worked all along, broke the world ...
Hey Ryan, don't knock it if you haven't tried it...;-)
Some of them already do. See Hare Krishnas and Hindu philosophy.
Hey, Ryan, there might be a way to bring that idea to Trump's attention...
LOLOLOL
LOLOLOLOL!!
Wait, they said it out loud on the floor of the House when declining to say a prayer for Charlie.
Did you really think he would get a moment of silence?
Hell they couldn't stand up for a kid with cancer who was black at the State of the Union speech
Yeah. I just saw that. But not on MSM...yet
Heartless, shameless motherf*ckers.
Martyred
I see them doing it, and also casting his murder as a just result of him not supporting it.
This is exactly right.
Thank you, Ryan!
I believe that the Massachusetts senator is considering toning down her rhetoric provided, however, that gun control becomes a focus of public policy.
Yes! The moment there is an assassination, pivot to a preferred policy.
^^This!^^
Disgusting. Just checking back in. I guess I shouldn’t. Spent an hour watching the birds fatten up at our feeder.
You read this yet? Effing EVIL.
https://thefederalist.com/2025/09/10/divisive-figure-media-ghouls-rush-to-smear-charlie-kirk-after-horrific-assassination/
These "media" outlets continue to wade in the sewage. They are paid to lie and divide the populace. There is nothing they would not do for money. There is not an ounce of collective moral character amongst them.
100%
This is the end of the beginning. Buckle up, strap ‘em down.
The middle is going to be very messy.
Note that Matthew Dowd was originally a Democrat, then served as chief strategist for George W. Bush in the 2004 presidential race, but later reverted to Democrat, making him a perfect MSNBC "conservative." Just on a hunch, I searched on Matthew Dowd + Lincoln Project, and sure enough, he's been adjacent to the RINO boy diddlers.
Yeah. Exactly.
If Dowd operated in the real world he'd be the guy who makes copies and gets coffee for middle management.
What gets me is the lengths these people go to to APPEAR intelligent. He has all the hallmarks of a mental midget:
1. Total lack of curiosity
2. Difficulty with abstract thinking
3. Reliance on clichés and buzzwords
4. Inability to truly listen
5. Unwillingness to admit mistakes
6. Lack of empathy
7. Always need to be "busy" about doing NOTHING
8. Can't handle criticism
9. Doesn't value others perspective/ideas/opinions.
In other words he has SMALL DICK ENERGY.
"Small dick energy" is one of the finest political insults I've ever seen. It needs to replace "hack."
Its true tho...lolol, Bobby!
Ryan, you’ve done it again. 👍 I’ve been trying to come up with a bullet point list how to spot midwits in the wild. Your list comes close to perfect. I would add, “slavish adherence to dogma”, and “incapable of original thought”.
But the topper is “small dick energy”! Consider it stolen!
Nice additions!
They are begging for the boot.
I just posted this comment in unreported truths but it seems to really connect with what you just wrote, Chris.
I feel like I’m reliving the ‘60s suddenly. I was just turning 8 when Kennedy was shot, then MLK, RFK, George Wallace, anarcho-marxist bombings, Manson Family murders (I grew up Hollywood Hills adjacent) and then terrorism exploding into the ‘70s. It wasn’t a proud time for me, even though I’m called a boomer. All of that poison seems to be conjuring up again via my peers in college who went into academia with their ideological delusions. I’m overwhelmed with sadness.
Much of the craziness and violence in the 60's and 70's was intentional from the deep state cockroaches under programs such as Operation Gladio and MK Ultra, including the Manson murders. It may well be deep state swamp creatures using their creativity again to cause chaos in this country. Remember always the question, who benefits; I can think of many.
The best case right now is Chris's read. That's being hopeful. If there are intelligence or org crime connections of any kind this will be hard for the right to process. God help us.
MOST of it was. Or I should say, almost ALL of it was.
TargetedJustice.com
I'll go out on a limb here and say this has Deep State written all over it. They wanted him dead because he:
a) represented the family
b) was a Christian
c) encouraged dialogue and debate
d) had a HUGE influence on YOUNG people to help get the USA headed in the right direction
His Turning Point USA group also hosted Tucker Carlson's speech in Tampa earlier this year, where Tucker said Epstein was working for Israel and “every single person in Washington D.C.” thinks the same. He added, “I’ve never met anyone who doesn’t think that. I don’t know any of them that hate Israel. But no one feels they can say that.”
Agree in part. There are definitely those in government, in NGOs, & billionaires (Soros, et. al.) who want society to fragment and fight each other.
This is also the result of an out of control vaccine schedule combined with who knows what else pharmaceutical voodoo, causing neurological damage that sometimes results not only in gender dysphoria, but sadly complete disassociation with reality leading to crime.
I share your history and am going through the same process. Numbness and anger.
If I knew what PTSD was I’d say this is it. Weird because I’ve never read anything by Charlie Kirk or listened to his videos or podcasts. It’s just so immoral, the epitome of virtue signaling, all of it, no bravery, nothing constructive, just toxic narcissism. The assholes dancing in tick tock videos, while his family grieves. I’m sorry if you’re feeling the same way because it isn’t pleasant . . .
Charlie was not someone I followed but I did see some of his videos. He fostered debate in respectful ways. I’m flashing back to Bobby Kennedy at the Ambassador in LA. The Left just cannot tolerate debate.
My mother woke me up to watch what was unfolding after RFK was shot. I’m still trying to decode Marshall McLuhan, but I definitely feel as though the medium amplifies the message.
Ideology has no room for debate. A person who subscribes to an ideology must accept every tenet, or you end up like Trotsky.
Unfortunately I lived in LA at the time and watched the speech live.
I was also eight when JFK was assassinated and my family lived in Arlington, Va. We stood on the DC streets with thousands to watch the funeral procession. My impressions from that time have stayed with me. My grandmother died in her sleep the night RFK was shot; it broke her heart.
After the murders of innocents while at Mass, and of a young Ukrainian refugee who loved her new country, I didn’t think I could feel more heartsick. Today made me feel the heartache is only beginning for us. As Neil Young wrote way back then: “This much madness is too much sorrow.”
McLuhan and Christopher Lasch (“The Culture of Narcissism”) were two of the early warning sirens for our age. If I were a religious rabbit, I would think we were in The End Times.
This is strange - I was just turning 9 when JFK was killed and I grew up Hollywood Hills, too, right underneath the Hollywood sign. We weren't far from the murders of the LaBianca husband and wife. I remember the "love-ins" at the time every Sunday in Griffith Park. It wasn't a proud time for me either. This is just sad.
These aren’t memories I purposely dredge up, but as far back as JFK I always felt for the families. I’m sure it was the image of little Caroline and JFK jr in the funeral parade. All such needless pain.
Reminds me of South Park guys selling out to Paramount. It’s fine to make fun of our current president and his administration but there was a complete lack of that during Obama’s three (not a typo) terms. The hypocrisy is astounding.
I was going on 12 when JFK was shot, but have been feeling the same deja vu as you.
Same here. I was eight for JFK, thirteen for RFK, MLK. I watched campuses burn with rage. The seventies were pure chaos. You mentioned PTSD, I had never thought about it until Butler. I had an overwhelming feeling of fear, not for myself, but immediately going to “what’s next will be worse”. Today I saw the Kirk shooting clip raw on X and it shook me to my core. We’re heading down a dark road that many of us have seen coming for quite a while. This is the end of the beginning.
Am I Chris' oldest subscriber? I was 14 when JFK was murdered, you all can do the math for the others. 1968 was a frightening year. Is 2025 to be another?
"Chaos: Charles Manson, the CIA, and the Secret History of the Sixties" is the title of an interesting book by Tom O'Neill.
I was 8 in 1968, old enough to remember RFK and MLK’s assassinations. And see what the fallout of Sixties and Seventies was like, as you described. Someone asked me once how I could be so conservative, growing up in SF at that time; I said, “Because I grew up watching all that.” Yesterday brought back bad memories. Rest eternal grant Charlie, oh Lord.
Exactly, we grew up and got sadder but wiser.
I saw JFK when his motorcade passed through the city during the last month of the 1960 campaign. I was 4. I was in 1st grade when he was assassinated, and the teacher stopped class and told us to pray. It's been a lifetime, and everything has changed, but nothing has changed.
Same here. My fourth grade teacher closed the door after recess and told the class “President Kennedy has been shot.”
Days of Rage, by Bryan Burroughs, covers the time--the '70s terrorism, that is.
As a GenXer, I’m glad you posted this — thank you. I’ve felt for a while that the ‘80s and ‘90s were an unusually idyllic time in which to grow up and come of age, Cold War and MAD notwithstanding, and today got me wondering if this was what the ‘60s felt like.
In some ways it is very much like the dark side of the sixties.
Late sixties to the late seventies were a period of extreme chaos. I’m a boomer that lived it. The overwhelming zeitgeist was rage and despair. Yes, my feelings of Deja vu are very strong. The throwback is apt, as will be the blowback.
I was 10 when JFK was shot. I vividly remember the day. A few of us kids sat our 4th grade teacher’s car listening to the radio.😔
When people cheer the death of a man like Charlie Kirk, the middle ground is gone. Kirk was a pragmatic, calm, knowledgeable debater. He allowed his opponents to speak uninterrupted, he was often yelled at, and even laughed at, he never lost his cool. He simply debated the issue and presented his side. He would allow anyone to challenge him. His assasination had 1 purpose, to shut conservatives up, full stop. The shot was 200 yards and a precision kill shot, not some novice shooter. These people are out for blood and they want all opposing voices silenced, stat.
Exactly! Whoever pulled the trigger on that high-powered rifle was a very highly skilled marksman, not some random nutcase!
A 200 yard shot like this requires basic marksmanship skill, the type that several million deer hunters, ex-servicemen or other competent shooters possess. Shots beyond 400 yards begin to stretch the abilities of casual, but proficient, shooters.
It's not the 200 yards that suggests professionalism to me--it's ingress, egress, and getting away; and now supposedly leaving behind a trans/antifa-decorated rifle as a message or diversion.
Agreed! Not some “transgender nutcase”!
This! That is exactly Charlie Kirk..... he so impressed me with his control and massive knowledge and the ability to counter all arguments!
I think it had another purpose, one they can use to justify themselves - to 'incite a white supremacist uprising'.
And civil war. The Podesta Plan.
It's inevitable at this point. Not just in the US but here in the UK and in Europe. I guess when all Western countries are in civil war it would be a world war.
Yes, a kill shot to the throat is a message for sure. Charlie always invited anyone who disagreed with him to “ come down to the front”.
Early reports suggest a 'sniper rifle' but given the Left's inability to discern the difference between a stock and barrel, early reports should be treated with scepticism. My wild ass guess is that it will probably be something in the AR-10 or other Sporting Rifle range. The AR-10 and other rifles like it are easily disassembled in very short periods of time.
The problem for investigators is that it's a college campus. Backpacks were likely everywhere. Unless the shooter was exceptionally stupid, standard backpacks could have been used to carry a disassembled rifle from the scene.
There are 16,000 shooting ranges in the US. 30-40% have a range of 200 yards or more. The investigators could get lucky. The shooter might have been stupid enough to train at a formal range within 3 hours driving distance from the campus. There are 15 formal sites in range, and 10+ informal sites. Social media is another possibility. Shooters of all types in this category are generally social isolated, have absent fathers and have heavy online engagement. Fob or swipe records of building entry might be another avenue to pursue.
MSNBC says he was asking to be shot and their big concern is how will Trump use it… they are spiritually captured by evil
Katy Fucking Tur
You left off the "d"
Whose father is now a she. Maybe not relevant but definitely interesting.
Per the MSNBC website -- "Illinois Gov. JB Pritzker expressed his sympathies for Kirk and warned at a press conference that “there are people who are fomenting [political violence] in this country. I think the president’s rhetoric often foments it.”
Pritzker blaming Trump -- what an ass. If anyone ever needed proof that these guys are evil, here you go.
The left can’t stop accusing the other side of what the left is actually doing. JB “If you don’t like my policies then leave” Pritzker.
"It's your side doing it, and if we did it, you made us."
I've seen comments like Charlie Kirk deserved it because he was spreading hate. He didn't but even if he did, so what?
It's like: She totally had it coming. She ran her big mouth and made me angry, so I shot her.
If Trump makes you angry, it's ok to go and shoot someone.
Trump is the reason that Everything Has Gone to S**t in the minds of a-holes like Pritzker, and then that filters down to the leftist masses!
Did you miss Trump saying he was siccing the Department of War on Chicago?
Yes, I heard that. How will he use it to be more dictatorial. Remember, it's the guns, or the lack of transgender-affirming care because of Trump. Odds are the shooter is transgender.
Not hardly was “the shooter a transgender”. This “assassination” was done by a “professional”. Haven’t heard of too many ‘transgender he/she professional for hire shooters ”.
Military men and cops become autogynephilic transgenders way out of proportion to their numbers. There are a multitude of manly men out there wearing bustiers and eye shadow and plotting violence.
The term is actually “autogynephilic transsexual” not “trans gender”. And apparently this ‘diagnosis’ is under scrutiny. And doesn’t fit what you are describing. It’s ‘sexual’ in nature, not about wearing women’s clothes and makeup.
See below:
https://www.transgendermap.com/issues/sexology/autogynephilia/
Wearing a bustier and eye shadow does not make someone trans …more like a ‘cross dresser’. And do these “autogynephilic transgenders” parade around wearing their AR 15’s slung over their bustiers like a cross body handbag?
Beyond repugnant. Matthew Dowd should be so ashamed of himself.
Well he's fired, and while I don't condone cancellation, if murder over politics is ok according to his rules, firing sure is.
Who is fired?
Matthew “Male Pattern” Dowd
Shameless Matthew Dowd. Just check out his Dem-W-Schwarzenegger-Lincoln Project-Dem-MSNBC rap sheet.
"Asking to be shot" meaning brave enough to do something like 3,500 appearances at rabid leftist campuses with minimal security.
I hope people realize that Charlie was a born again Christian before anything else and they put their trust in the God of the Bible to save us and provide ultimate justice.
What the left doesn't realize is that this will galvanize conservatives, Christians and all Americans repulsed by this senseless act. And I pray, it will lead to a great spiritual revival in our country.
Amen Sista! 🙏🏼💪🏼🇺🇸
I cried for the first time in years.
What a beautiful young family with his whole life in front of him.
Evil can not be tolerated.
The Left has harbored hate so long, it came for them.
We are in a "spiritual" battle for the soul of civilization.
I had physical shakes for an hour or more. Wished tears would come.
I cried, too. I have just had enough.
So he is rightly in heaven now. God bless Charlie's family.
Amen
Right you are Linda. My only comfort is knowing he is with Jesus now.
Spoke the Gospel always. Just recently he posted “ Jesus died so we can live”.
Yes... this knowledge gives me great comfort. But sadness for his young family keeps the tears coming. I hope we all honor Charlie by following in his footsteps, telling the Truth with courage for the love of our country.
It's just.....I just think about his kids. My eldest loved Charlie, watched him on YouTube all the time. He was a fantastic role model for millions of young people, he connected with young people and let them talk and heard them, like nobody else. And some fcker destroyed that. 😭
Yeah that looked like a professional sniper hit from a distance. Unfortunatley, a good shot too. This is worrisome. More hits may be coming. This is terrorism, made to shut down conservative debate. I hope they get the shooter(s) soon because if they don't I fear this is just the beginning.
If the guy escaped with thousands of people there to see, I expect them to find a patsy (LHO#2?) who then is shot by someone dying of stomach cancer before he can point out that he had nothing to do with it. We've seen this all before.
Yes, we have, though very few Americans know about it.
Read this book:
https://www.amazon.com/Last-Second-Dallas-Josiah-Thompson/dp/0700630082
Yes we have…we know The Playbook. 😣
He had a Kevlar vest o. And it ricocheted of his vest and hit his jugular
Kevlar doesn't stop rifles, unless over that distance the bullet lost enough energy.
Yeah. There's conflicting info on this. But it does look like it ricocheted.
I probably should've waited before commenting
Exactly. It was a professional sniper. What does that tell us?
Truthbird - I hope you don’t take this as an attack but I’ve seen a lot of people saying things along this line so I wanted to provide some context.
I am a former Marine scout-sniper so I know a bit about long range shooting.
To use a mundane analogy: The vast majority of people have neither the knowledge nor the equipment to change their own oil, but with just a little bit of knowledge and some basic equipment it becomes a relatively trivial task. Taking apart and rebuilding an engine, on the other hand, requires at least professional level knowledge if not an actual professional.
A 200-yard shot from a prone, supported position is an oil-change shot. Give me a good rifle/scope combo and an hour on a range with you and I guarantee I’d have you making consistent 200-yard shots with ease. And I’d spend at least half the time showing you how to zero your rifle. You’d be shocked – perhaps horrified – at how easy it is.
At 200 yards neither windage nor bullet drop are meaningful factors, much less the more esoteric influences on flight path. All you need is a good zero and the ability to hold the rifle steady. Shooting from the prone off of either a bipod or support bag makes the 'hold it steady' part easy.
Of course that doesn’t mean the shooter was NOT a professional, just that it wasn’t necessary. This could have easily been some trantifa goon with a gun fetish.
Now those young people like your son, need to pick up the torch and the mantle of truth and conservative values and carry Charlie’s message far and wide! 💪🏼🇺🇸💥
He does, believe me! It's difficult here in the UK atm hence my absence from this stack for a while, but he says his views won't change because they are informed by his morals and his values. He's a good kid, and I'm very proud of him.
He’s gone. The world is sick. Infected with a suicidal/homicidal global spongiform encephalopathy.
It’s part of something larger that transcends destroying solely humans. It’s the destruction of what is “ humanity”.
History, beauty and all things relevant to life, whether living or memorialized.
It hit me like a ton of bricks with a single event. A wake up call. Seeing Notre Dame in flames. And the inexplicably bizarre reaction. None.
What more symbolic of France than the exquisite cathedral? The twin steeples,gargoyles, the symbol of Christianity, history? The only landmark as recognizable and “ French” is the Eiffel Tower.
The French “ leadership” and global media immediately wrote it off as an “ incident, likely attributable to a careless workman leaving a lit cigarette near a dry wood beam”. Case closed. Nary a peep from the beacon of virtuosity, anti-Pope Francis.
Arson? Sssh!
All the forest fires consuming California, Canada, Texas, Australia.. raging infernos. “ Climate Change”
Arson? Sssh!
Slashing, defacing famous works of art in famous museums in the name of “ Climate Change”
Because it’s DaVinci’s and Van Gogh’s fault, dammit!
Spray painting the monoliths of Stonehenge. No biggie. Thirty + years ago I stepped over the rope surrounding the barrier and was nearly arrested. Stonehenge is an amazing mystery. Spiritual. So defiling it with red spray paint is okay. Deserving of destruction.
Targeting Sydney Sweeney. All 5’3” of her. A beautiful young woman. Motivated by insane, irrational hatred.
The tiny, delicate, beautiful Ukrainian girl minding her own business on her way home from work. Because she was white. And NOBODY did a damn thing to help.
The horrific exposure of the Fauci directed torture of thousands of Beagle PUPPIES. Puppies! A caricature in the NYT.
Shinzo Abe assassination. Nothing
The assassinations of the beautiful young Israeli diplomats.. engaged. They weren’t Jewish, which made it even “ better”. Showing America what happens to those who support “Jewwwzzz”
Today it’s Charlie. Who has been demonized in ways so dishonestly, despicably and hatefully by the media and the NGO globalists who own them. Who sponsor the hatred and divide. The “ protests”, the violence… and not a damned thing has yet to have been done to expose and end this evil.
We need a “ Great Reset” . It begins with the annihilation of the UN/WEF/WHO /CFR/Trilateral Commission and the matrix of ancillary tentacles.
Well said Gail 💥
Thank you, Brandon.
The fourth turning is upon us.
Yup. The Final Revolution. Transhumanized Technotyranny
The Post-1984 Brave New World
Huxley was right.
I’ve watched as much of the Charlie compilocrap from the conservacrap cutouts over the past 6 hours and nary a mention of his exposure of the WEF Great Reset/UN Agenda 2030/WHO Pandemic Treaty.. the rigged/ overturned/denied elections, coups, assassinations and assassination attempts , prosecution , imprisonment of duly elected leaders or leading candidates and banned independent parties. And the installation of WEF YGLs.. globally.
Charlie Kirk hammered the plan.. the dissolution of nation states, the Marxist/Islamist Red/Green Alliance .. the distractions and chaos to usher in the One World Order.
Nary a mention by any of the “ brilliant I love the sound of my own voice” experts. But on and on about Charlie’s Christianity.
The difference between Charlie’s Faith and theirs was Charlie didn’t “ read” the Bible, he understood the depth. Hindus who immerse themselves in spiritual depth of Hinduism. Who understand the symbolism of the gods- the balance that is life- are of the same awareness. Ditto Buddhists, Jews, Deists.. it’s the message within the medium.
Everything else is a veneer. And even as the veneer is being stripped away to the rusted, crumbling grid, they don’t see it. They don’t see the pattern, they don’t connect the dots . They cannot all be that obtuse and those who know what’s going on and remain silent are evil by default. They’re complicit.
I realize how off the rails I seem. Perhaps I am, but something, if not everything, is very wrong and it’s not just my eccentricity.
Thank you, Gail. Loving your voice here. We can't tolerate malicious deception any longer. That's the tripwire.
Thank you, Navyo.
It’s all platitudes and condemnations without any subtext.
Nor is there any curiosity, either.
I despise everything the left stands for, but I’m not to the right on everything, either and it is so tiresome hearing the constant “ us vs them” and being spoken for. So pedantically . I don’t like the shift to hyper-religiosity on the right. These idiots sound like Elmer Gantry, but minus the eloquence. They’re proselytizing and it’s a turn off.
It's weird to think the Left used to be my tribe. Everything changed after Covid. That was the turning point for me. I'm a recovering socialist. All the sane dialog and truth-seeking came from the Right, and continues to do so. But like you, I now see Left and Right as constructs whose purpose is that we fight each other instead of the real enemy, the 0.0001% who control the world.
Gail said it right
Anyone who celebrates an assassination is mentally unstable. I don’t care who it is. They have every right to disagree with ideas but to celebrate is SICKENING. The crisis is worse than we know. 😢
The Right doesn’t nearly match the Left’s energy level. Even winning an election, there was just enough energy to do that.
There needs to be more. Feet need to be put down. The savages need to be caged or evicted, and the adults need to take charge of our society again.
The Left is obsessed with politics. We on the other side just want to be left alone. Guess who monopolizes the "debate," if one still goes on after this.
100%. But of course non-violently and within the rule of law.
Normies can see the distinction between tribes and the political vibe shift in the nation is real. The fact that voter registration in every single state that tracks party affiliation shows a significant drop in team blue exactly matched by a corresponding rise in team red means something. We’re witnessing an extinction level event of the politics of nihilism.
But Team Blue still holds all the power, and can fix all the elections. So how does that help?
Agreed wholeheartedly
Their collapse can’t come fast enough. Unfortunately there will be much pain and suffering on that path. Let’s pray it’s a short trip.
"I know this message will seem strange in this moment, but the violent lashing out isn’t a sign of strength. It’s the sign of cultural death, and evidence that the people who want to destroy disagreement are deeply, painfully aware that they cannot convince."
And this (just like all the other topics you mention) will drive away the sanest people but be embraced by the element who remains.
The difference between us and them is we celebrate life, while they celebrate death. The current left are a death cult, and have been for years. Death is their deity, and they are fanatics. The sane adults among us must mock and shame them into irrelevance. Although,a good beat down sounds more and more appealing.
In the movie Sodom and Gomorrah (the 50s version), when Stewart Granger asks the queen why she didn't flee when the city was burning around her, that she'd die if she stayed, she said that they celebrated death.
Great movie!
Yes, Charlie was murdered precisely because he was tolerant and willing to debate. He was convincing and charming and showed people on the political fence a human side of conservatism. That was unforgiveable because that shows the shallowness of progressive ideas. He was convincing and that damned him. I have no words.
Maybe Charlie was murdered because the left is declaring war. They are losing and are running out of options. I think when the dust settles we will find NGO's funded by the likes of Reid Hoffman at the bottom of this sewer.
Charlie had power. and “they” knew it. He was admired & revered by the next generation; too threatening to the powerful on the left. I don’t think the shooter is some random, suicidal mentally disturbed kid. This seemed professional, well planned out. One kill shot to the target & gone.
Yes, the shot was, unfortunately, very professional. Rifle shit, 200 yards, right into the neck.
If you go to Charlie's YouTube channel and watch the video entitled "Charlie Kirk VS The Washington State Woke Mob" one thing is strikingly clear: The dude was patient, he was calm, he was affable. They would insult him and trivialize him and he would smile and tease out more good willed conversation. He was EVERYTHING that they were not. We lost a good man today, a kind soul who is now with God in eternity. His family though....that's where I start getting angry. Someone also stole a loving father from his family today.
'For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the cosmic powers over this present darkness, against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly places.' /// God speed Charlie.
9/11 didn't shock me as this has. America has always had foreign enemies. I don't think I have been as shocked by a murder since John Lennon's, and that was a murder for personal reasons. This compares very well with the MLK assassination.
9/11 was an inside job.
In other words, it was orchestrated by the United States government.
You need to read up on it.
911revision@substack.com
Likely this “hit” was also “an inside job”. 🤔😬🕵🏼♀️
Plenty of disagreements with the left, but also among conservatives, as seen by Bobby's response. Given this is the anniversary, here's my favorite 5-minute analysis:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuC_4mGTs98
9/11: A Conspiracy Story
http://www.corbettreport.com/?p=2594
As Corbett sums up the official Deep State story: Ignorance is strength.
Complete horseshit.
Read EKO Substack on 9/11.
I agree - it feels like all the wrong reasons that resulted in MLK being murdered.
A young woman lost her husband. Two young kids lost their dad. I can’t get past that right now. So, so sad.
You are 💯 percent correct Chris. And may I add this is a classic spiritual problem: ". . comes from an impotent rage over the limits of personal will." Also, one shot? Professional hit likely. Needs a massive investigation. Also Gabbard submitted evidence of Treason by Obama.
One shot and apparently a successful escape in the face of a crowd, as the person arrested for the shooting has been released and the police say he was the wrong guy.
Somewhat suspicious that Kirk was responding to a question about gun violence, and that the old bastard now released was said to be shouting "shoot him." Hope someone's taking a closer look at the questioner and the geezer, because it seems too coincidental that someone makes a surgical single shot from 200 feet (reported by some as 200 yards) at just that moment.
Yes, deflection. Would not rule out conspiracy
Yep.
The “geezer” didn’t do it!
I know he wasn't the shooter (video shows apparent shooter on a roof), but was he part of the stagecraft: "Right-wing extremist shot while defending gun owners!"?
Yes so possible conspiracy. As Trump wrote: "No one understood or had the Heart of the Youth in the United States of America better than Charlie." Well that's quite a target
Charlie was effective, and a winner, therefore he was dangerous to the evil left trying to destroy our society.
Because of his young followers.
Most significant demographic swaying constituencies these days
Shades of JFK.
IOW, a hit. Filling the news on 9/11.