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Regina Filippone's avatar

As of 7 am this morning,I didn’t know what “ white lotus “ was .. by 7 pm , I am sure that I don’t want to know . Maybe that’s news ??

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Chris Bray's avatar

Same. Can we mark it down as personal growth?

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Pat Robinson's avatar

The first two seasons were entertaining but as always it becomes time to jump the shark searching for headlines.

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Cathleen Manny's avatar

Nope. It’s pure trash, pure propaganda. No new shows are ok to watch.

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Michael L's avatar

"Cobra Kai" has an inspiring message for America's youth: "Don't be a pussy!"

And I found "Reservation Dogs" brilliant, but you know what the Romans said about taste.

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Sharon R. Fiore's avatar

Absolutely! 100%

Believe me, they do not waste their time making something that isn’t propaganda. Why would they?

Even the stories that seemed to look good on the surface are terrible influences on everyone.

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Michael L's avatar

My wife and I are watching the current season mostly out of morbid curiosity.

We knew what we were in for pretty quickly in the new season with the first episode's interminable setup and repetition of cliché situations (in case you didn't notice in the last scene, these two women REALLY resent their more successful friend who's paying for the trip- no they REALLY resent her. Got it?).

I think they topped that with the pseudo-profundity of the ex-druggie talking about how after having sex with Thai girls every night he realized that he wanted to BE the Thai girl that a guy was screwing, and then that he wanted to be screwing himself. I felt genuinely bad for the writer, because I could easily visualize him tapping it out on his laptop and thinking, "Wow, I've got something really deep here! I'm cooking!"

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Pat Robinson's avatar

As I said, this season has jumped the shark in so many ways. Wonder how Arnold Schwarzenegger feels about his son play a guy who gets a hand job from his brother.

At this point I’m just curious who shoots up the resort at the end.

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Michael L's avatar

Well, I've got a pretty good idea who's going to end up at the monastery in a (yawn) "twist."

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Pat Robinson's avatar

Yes, dad has a lot of isssues

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Cathleen Manny's avatar

Michael L - that’s how they manipulate you into watching this tripe (morbid curiosity).

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fiendish_librarian's avatar

Much better casts as well. I don't have any attachment to any of these characters with the exception of the security guard being friend-zoned by that girl he's crazy about.

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Sharon R. Fiore's avatar

You are making money for Satanists. You are not even really enjoying it. Unbelievable!

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K2's avatar

Yes.

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Regina Filippone's avatar

Absolutely!!!

And I’m taking one more growth step…. Not going to ask my friends if they watch it. I think it’s better not to know.

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Cathleen Manny's avatar

Yes. Ignoring is powerful.

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URsomoney's avatar

White Lotus was on our “list of recommended shows”. Luckily never got around to it because we didn’t want to pay for another channel. Thanks for the heads up so now we dont have to stop another “highly recommended show” because we thought it was crap.

It appears the commenters here are on the same page - maybe we should start a recommended list of shows??

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Cathleen Manny's avatar

Who created this “list of recommended shows”?

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URsomoney's avatar

Friends & coworkers tell us what they’re watching/what’s good. I don’t know if my husband & I are from another planet but we usually bail on the shows by the first 3 episodes because they’re so insulting. I could make a “what not to watch” list.

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Sharon R. Fiore's avatar

Fastest way to stop the evil people is to NOT give them our money!!

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Vermont Farm Wife's avatar

Publicists.

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mileytheduchess's avatar

Ace of Spades featured a clip and a few commentaries on a scene from White Lotus. It gave me some insight into autogynephilia, the sickness that is transwomanhood. My brain kind of enjoyed processing that subversion. It explained a lot of the phenomenon to me.

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Secret Squirrel's avatar

Sorry. Sounds like .ewwww to Me.

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@2bysmom's avatar

There comes a time when the rot is so bad you end up with Victorian times as a fix….

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DrugDiscovery's avatar

I am right there with you, RF! Google must be disappointed.

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Regina Filippone's avatar

Disappointing Google. Another personal growth achievement

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Seymour Glass's avatar

I watch The White Lotus and I find it entertaining. The show starts with a dead body and with each episode more layers of disfunction are pealed off until you find out at the end who died and how. I find it good enough that I can overlook the propaganda. I just don’t need to be reading what some knucklehead blogger thought was hot about incest. I feel sorry for this person.

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Sharon R. Fiore's avatar

I feel sorry for all of you plus our youth you are killing with this shit. Tell me are our youth getting stronger? Better? More talent? Healthier?!

Yeah right!

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Meri-Lyn Stark's avatar

And after reading this I am so glad that I don’t even know wtf the White Lotus is. Sometimes being old and uninformed is just the best.

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Lydia Lozano's avatar

And one of the joys of being a full adult is that you don't care that you're not up on all the nonsense that used to seem so important.

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JT's avatar

I’m with you Mari…and now I’m trying desperately to unring that particular bell.

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Pat Robinson's avatar

Public grocery stores.

The Soviet Union had those, everything was cheap.

They were empty, but inexpensive

People are just so fucking stupid.

While I have no time for Hitler and the Nazis, all the fascists together didn’t come close to killing as many people as communists in the last hundred years, and yet people can still identify publicly as communists.

It’s this world that gives us Queers for Palestine and other examples of morons.

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AndyinBC's avatar

Its highly improbable that any members of a group called "Queers for Palestine" could ever hope to achieve the exalted intellectual status of "moron".

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Pat Robinson's avatar

🎯

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Wayne Jones's avatar

They do this intentionally to break you. To make you lose hope. Don't. Turn away. Just like your road trip showed you, all is well with the people in the heartland. It's not with the country as a whole, nor the world. It's being turned inside out for the profit and pleasure and power of a few. An incredibly complex piece of machinery that all they have to do is take their hands off the wheels for a bit, and it starts to dysfunction. That, and the intentional deconstruction, of course. Fascinating how it tracks the communist and leftist instructions so well - we're seeing it applied in real time. In the end, it's gonna get real bad for some. But in the end's end, all will be well. Disheartening for sure - I have brutally dark days. But we must stand and fight and help others to see. We have no choice.

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Chris Bray's avatar

Yes. Well said.

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Deborah Gregson's avatar

You are so right. There are personal dark days mourning for others, what is lost, and what's ahead. You are correct. I try to be a strong spiritual warrior as an example to those who don't yet see they are being deceived in the fight against evil people and demons. It takes consistent talking with God and like-minded people.

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Art's avatar
Mar 25Edited

I’m sure Bernie and AOC are hard at work at work with rallies to make the oligarchs stop the demoralization and degradation of American culture. Oh wait, AOC married her brother.

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fiendish_librarian's avatar

Wasn't that the Minnesota Somali? I'm losing track of all the Democrat incest action. That damn party is making "I, Claudius" look like Little House on the Prairie.

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Faz's avatar

But mark this: There will be terrible times in the last days. People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good, treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God— having a form of godliness but denying its power. Have nothing to do with such people.

Paul says it well - pay heed folks ... "last days".

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Deborah Gregson's avatar

While Biblically I know this isn't the "last days", there are cycles in history when nations are more prone to evil than others. The US, as well as most European countries, are in a downward cycle of evil which leads to destruction and discipline without doubt. It's interesting to watch as someone who understands both history and Biblical doctrines, although I didn't think I'd ever see such obvious examples during my own life.

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Eric Mader's avatar

Over at the occasionally worthwhile UnHerd, philosophy prof Kathleen Stock had a lengthy write up of The White Lotus which revealed, depressingly, that *she'd actually watched it*. And, adding insult to injury, was now was going to write on it.

My comment over there was:

-----Writers, quite simply, shouldn’t watch serial dramas. If they’re forced to, in order to please family members while visiting, they on no account should write about what they saw.

“Netflix? What … is that?”

I hold this truth to be self-evident.-----

Yeah, I know that's elitist, snobby. But that's just me. If refusing to swim in sewage is elitist--well, there I am, towering over the rabble.

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Bobby Lime's avatar

On Facebook in 2016, I was in a language group which I found extremely engaging. One day I saw a thread about a term which I had never seen before. I googled it and discovered that it was a term used in the production of porn videos. Damned unsettling, like learning that lizard people exist, and that there are a lot of them.

Yes, I know, I am a naif, a congenital simpleton. I like it. I should knock out a couple of teeth to make my smile vacuous. Okay, more vacuous.

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Eric Mader's avatar

Hah hah! Great comment. The "Okay, more vacuous" is top form.

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Bobby Lime's avatar

As if people couldn't tell from my comments.

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Susan's avatar

Not sure you can ever go wrong by being the one person who is willing to say, "Aren't you ashamed of yourself?" Kinda wish more people would be willing to do that.

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Randy Farnum's avatar

Shame is definitely in short supply these days!

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MLHVM's avatar

No one should ever be so codependent as to watch garbage television just because other people in the room are. If your family members are only pleased by your participation in their own humiliation, then you really MUST opt out, for both their edification and yours.

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Lydia Lozano's avatar

Yes, the "public" grocery stores worked out so well for the Russians, in fact the entire Eastern bloc. On the Internet there are fascinating photos of Khrushchev staring in awe at the offerings of an American grocery store during his historic visit. And there are very depressing photos of Soviet grocery stores. I don't think Bryce Covert has a clue what she is suggesting. Just hatched from her eggshell yesterday. Bet she never heard of the nomenklatura, either. "Virtually every stupid idea in vogue today was thought of by somebody in the past — and has led to disaster, again and again. That is why it is dangerous to neglect the study of history, so that we have to keep on learning what is wrong with clever ideas the hard way." ~ Thomas Sowell

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Tim's avatar

As I’ve mentioned elsewhere, a cousin of mine married a guy from Poland in the mid-1980s. His parents came to Canada from the old country for a visit shortly after the wedding. They apparently broke down and wept during their first visit to a neighborhood Safeway store.

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Richard Parker's avatar

I saw late Soviet grocery stores. They were as advertised.

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Deborah Gregson's avatar

The current ones are the same. I've watched a YT young lady for several years who was in Russia, and now moving from country to country in old Soviet areas, and all stores are small shops with few supplies so daily shopping must be done. Fresh foods are bought from street vendors.

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Laura Richardson's avatar

When Tucker went to Russia to interview Putin, he filmed a visit to a grocery store and the subway. The grocery store looked no different than a Tesco and the subway was immaculate as well as grand.

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Richard Parker's avatar

Thanks. Visited Russia 1989, 1990, 2008.

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Sue Kelley's avatar

Someone at Netflix made a calculation that there's an audience for homosexual incest?

I guess what's worse is it appears that they are correct.

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Randy Farnum's avatar

It played well with the focus group. Glad I wasn’t in that room.

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Tim's avatar

It’s an HBO Max production. But I see your point.

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Sue Kelley's avatar

Thanks. I guess I just assumed it was Netflix. I don't watch either of them. Appears I'm not missing much lol

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CB's avatar

Maybe they should build a series around the never Trumpers at the "log cabin" Lincoln Project.

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Richard Parker's avatar

Teenagers, young and old

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fiendish_librarian's avatar

What's strange is that it looked as if they were building up to the younger brother and his sister going at it. But given it's Schwarzenegger's son...depending on what you believe, his old man did some freaky porn before making it big back in the day.

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Rex Hughes's avatar

Do not quit writing, Chris because you’re worth reading

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Maenad's avatar

Commie groceries? The hippy dippys of the 60s had co-op stores. They were great, good prices, healthy food, nuthin’ wrong with raw milk and whole grains is there? Friendly service, food in bulk bins, buy what you need, fresh produce, friendly staff. Owned by the workers not by a nameless faceless mega farm-to-fork corporation sucking every last percentage of a penny out of people who need to eat. There are still a few around, most were snatched up with a deal you can’t refuse, to crush competition.

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Chris Bray's avatar

Owned by the customers, who put in the occasional shift.

https://coopportunity.com/ownership/

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Cathleen Manny's avatar

We have a grocery store chain here (Woodmans), which is employee-owned. They don’t accept credit cards, which helps keep their prices competitive…they’re lower than the other grocery store chains here. I’m in West-Central Wisconsin.

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Lydia Lozano's avatar

They still exist. One I know of even opened a second store in a "food desert" part of the city as a gesture of solitary with someone, I'm not sure who. You can imagine how that is going. Commercial grocery stores, your mega farm-to-fork places, operate on very thin margins, 1 to 3 percent. I don't see that as abusive. And I don't really see how they continue to do it.

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Deborah Gregson's avatar

Our local family meat/poultry market has been around since the 1950s. Their continued success is that it's in a semi-rural area. Right now the closest grocery store is over 5 miles away, but the area is growing quickly. As more people move in it will be interesting to see what changes.

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Deborah Gregson's avatar

There are places like this in Russia and former Soviet Bloc countries. There's nothing wrong with that. We have small local markets all over the US in rural areas that sell produce and eggs. There are some co-op stores still in places, mostly health and farm groups. The problem is in more urban areas they are pushed out by large chain stores or squashed by local government regulations that are too expensive to meet and keep prices reasonable. So selling things like raw milk, and goat's milk, becomes impossible.

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No name here's avatar

Can you imagine what it must have been like to be the last sane person working at one of these outfits?

Writer: "How is the city going to compete with a business whose margins are 2%"?

Editor: "Shut up, egghead. No one wants to read about that stuff. Stick to the good stuff, like buttfucking stray cats".

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Chris Bray's avatar

"Buttfucking stray cats!?!?!? I want our top people on this!"

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alwayscurious's avatar

Chris, I've had the impression that the pipes of new information have been clogged for several days. I don't blame you for this post. The creativity, time, and talent wasted on this kind of "entertainment" is cynical and portrays human beings as selfish and conniving demons. What happened to the energetic tempo of the rapid changes of the new administration being reported breathlessly across the airwaves for the first few weeks?

Media and Dems don't want to talk about the spring cleaning in DC as their complaints make them out to be defenders of corruption and thievery. They must be regrouping and carefully managing their strategy. I was wondering what your next write up would be.

Our concern for our future is so oddly paired with the people involved in producing garbage like the show you mention. Parallel universes, one envisioning human dignity, the other depravity.

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Chris Bray's avatar

I think it's all the same thing. Flooding the zone with garbage is a political strategy, or an unconscious strategy. The sewage in the news is political. I listened to a long report on NPR today about the way the vicious anti-vaxxers in Texas are causing a MASSIVE wave of deadly measles. For example, 300 people have tested positive for measles. In a state of 32 million people.

It's like trying to eat by picking little pieces of food out of the sewer with a pair of tweezers. The news is demoralizing, desensitizing, empty, and emptying.

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MSK's avatar

Well, dang, I missed that memo, and I’m living like normal in Texas. Just got back from a hiking trip to southern Arizona, where no one cares what things like White Lotus are, (never heard of that until today) and met some lovely people while enjoying the beauty of God’s earth. My life is better for not knowing the trash put out by our popular culture.

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alwayscurious's avatar

I think people are not falling for medical fearmongering any longer, so these reports are mostly landing on deaf ears. People are on to them. NPR will be extinct soon, like the dinosaurs, as they will be likely shut down, deservedly so.

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Aviva W.'s avatar

What’s in the news is either garbage or propaganda and outright lies. Elon Musk is a nazi and no one has been harmed by the HPV vaccine which totally prevents cancer.

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Lydia Lozano's avatar

Totally.

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Aviva W.'s avatar

For some reason it’s in the news all over again, NBC’s Today:

The HPV vaccine could eliminate 6 types of cancer. Why don’t more people get it?

The HPV vaccine is so effective that many experts say it's essentially a cancer vaccine.

https://www.today.com/health/disease/cancer-vaccine-hpv-rcna195393

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CB's avatar

Brought to you by your friends at Merck.

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Maenad's avatar

Obama repealed the Smith Mundt Act so there is no telling if the news is The News, (not that there ever was) it’s just “legal” now. Not getting spun up is essential. When the NYT can just go oopsie, sorry we were fooled, and so were you dummy, but keep Trusting the Experts, we have to learn to verify, read original docs, and stop getting hysterical over headlines and scare quotes, making one even more emotionally vulnerable.

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Lynn46's avatar

I've been my own citizen journalist for the past 5 yrs. Down the rabbit hole that seems to have no end.

I should change my avatar name to research junkie.

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Leonard's avatar

One could just as easily link measles to illegal immigration. The fact they purposely avoid doing so as a possibility proves the outlet’s uselessness.

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Deborah Gregson's avatar

I keep telling my husband that I want demographic data on those who have measles and have died of measles. But notice we have none. I think there's a reason. We had lots of data like that in the first two years of COViD, but no data is kept regarding that anymore.

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Baya Lazz's avatar

A girl died basically from Tylenol, sedatives and being denied water. Some media are calling it a measles death. There is no test for 'measles' as such. They have defined measles as relating to this 'test' , having some vague rash, being linked to another 'case' and being 'unvaccinated' so basically if people quit 'vaccinating' many more could die from tylenol , sedatives and being denied water if they go to these people because it becomes much easier to link 'cases' the more 'unvaccinated' there are.

https://mikestone.substack.com/p/measles-magic

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Doggie Dad's avatar

Love a dog and be loved by one. Take a Fuckitol in the morning, then walk the dog. Repeat as needed.

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Vermont Farm Wife's avatar

We're getting a new kitten this weekend to add to the menagerie, his current owners have named him Jack. I like that name, we'll keep it.

It's terrifically grounding to be on a farm, however small ours is. Every morning, regardless of weather or how crappy I feel, there are animals in the barn waiting to be fed. They are happy to see me. I am happy to see them.

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Deborah Gregson's avatar

My life dream has been to visit Vermont in the Fall. One day I'm going to get there. I love our small compound in North Carolina. We only have a cat and dog, but also deer that keep coming back. The cat takes care of bunnies, most squirrels, voles, moles, and other small creatures. She's a terror but leaves us gifts. She's an outdoor girl who likes the comfort of knowing we'd prefer her to be inside. My husband is glad we don't have a farm or I'd have a horse, cow, or Useless Farm like Amanda.

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Vermont Farm Wife's avatar

C'mon up some fall! October is gorgeous here!

Outdoor cats are not a thing around here because of the coyotes and foxes. When I lived in rural Pennsylvania, stray cats would show up at our back door all the time, but I haven't ever seen one in Vermont, and we've been living here for quite a while. Unfortunately, the cats don't last long outside so we keep ours in.

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Bonnie's avatar

The battle is real.

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mileytheduchess's avatar

It's natural to feel fatigue, and unnecessary to react to much of the b.s. Otherwise, you feel like water that energy flows through, making waves. And the waves are "The White Lotus" and the bomb "Snow White" and Rachel Zegler. Or Harry Sisson. Or the Tate brothers. I'm kind of sorry that I know who any of these people are.

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Michael L's avatar

To repurpose a British saying about billiards, "To know something of popular culture is the mark of a well-rounded person. To know too much is a sign of wasted time."

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Deborah Gregson's avatar

Perfect.

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JF Murphy's avatar

I am not optimistic, as the issue is systemic.

Consider these two recent articles that are, arguably, empirical:

Idiocracy Looms As Study Finds TikTok Rots Youth Minds

Social media has caused a decline in the average 15 year old's IQ of 3% since 2010.

https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/peak-cognition-fears-tiktok-rots-youth-minds

Decline In Intelligence

Long thread about the decline in reasoning power in the average westerner since 2010.

https://x.com/jburnmurdoch/status/1900537267308937416

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