"If somebody is radicalized, and wants removal, move away from that, how can we help them with counseling, for example, to get them away from that ideology?"
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Yes, because a bunch of just-"radicalized" (wtf does this even mean in reality?) dudes are going to ask Jay Inslee to set up a meeting with a counselor.
What world do these people live in?
Pro tip for Inslee et al., telling people they must be mentally ill if they disagree with your crazy schemes is exactly how you "radicalize" them.
Here in Sweden our authorities used to call it "Paranoia Querulans", meaning someone who didn't accept the governement's word just because they (the individual) was in the right both legally and morally.
Or in other words, someone who dared stand up against governement back then (1930s-1950s) could be declared mentally ill, sterilised and institutionalised.
You'd think having that in our recent history would vaccinate people against the notion that "governement says so" equals right and just and true?
No such luck. If I had a crown for everytime I've heard "But they said soon state TV/radio!" as a proof of truth, I could buy Alaska.
I know an NYC EMT who took the jab to keep his job. He didn’t want it. But went against himself to keep his job. It was an emotional and spiritual conflict within himself. Resulting in emotional pain. Now, he is forced to agree with some DEI crap to keep his job. It’s churning him up inside. They assault your body and mind by holding your livelihood hostage until you put what they want inside your body and mind. and for those of us with some semblance of an independent brain and soul it is very damaging to confirm. Resist at all cost. Or it will get worse. Guard your body your mind and laugh at these fools who actually don’t have respect for humanity. In their guise of kindness these types are so assaultive and controlling. These 2 probably have been programmed to carry out this crap and don’t even know it.
Not to mention those in Cali talking about “it” may be disappointed about what is considered “it” in Texas. It’s all so damn foolish. A truly first world problem.
I've learned to take a completely new approach to reading proposed legislation:
Before reading the first sentence, I say to myself: "This was written by a lobbyist, with the goal of moving public funds to a commercial or ... ahem ... "non-profit" organization."
And, voilà!, the legislation is perfectly logical, if no more useful. For example:
"Identifying community-led and evidence-based solutions to combat disinformation and misinformation, address early signs of radicalization, and develop public health-style responses…."
That's lobbyspeak for funding a research project by someone who hired the lobbyist.
I suspect much of the legislation enacted in recent decades was proposed, and written, by lobbyists. In all levels of government. Perusing almost any legislation, it appears as if the goal of the document is to either allocate or distribute funds to specific groups, OR, to extend the reach and power of some bureaucracy.
FL Rep. Matt Gaetz was on the TimCast IRL podcast, right after the McCarthy confirmation. He was startingly frank in describing how the legislature goes about its business, including the lobbyists' role in creating and forcing legislation. Literally, pulling the curtain back on the wizard.
It's a shocking podcast and well worth watching from start to finish. A couple of years ago, "they" went after him hard, trying to take him down with a phony scandal. After watching the interview, it's obvious why. He's a threat to the establishment.
I thought I was moving to a great place when I came up from CA in the late '80's.
A few looked at me like 'really - can't you just stay in CA?'. But most were real friendly and eventually I came to see most of the people I met were from CA as well. Now I see what some
feared on first meeting me (oh no another one) has somehow panned out. WA is now
CA. So is OR. The whole W. coast is hosed. I think stuff like time for ID or MT next?
Maybe it's long past that and time to dig in and fight. If not us, who? I stole this line
from Elizabeth Nickson - full disclosure.
"There is no other ground of freedom than the one you now stand upon.
Defend it or your children will live in tyranny. "
They are already in Wyoming and Montana. The other problem is that if you listen to or read some of the “thought leaders” on the yuppie right, they sound as unrealistic as the Lefties.
“We’re gonna build artificial islands in the sea and live in geodesic domes and run them on blockchain and libertarian unicorn power.” Uh no you aren’t. These folks have the same academic pedigrees, professional backgrounds and lifestyle as their leftist counterparts and they are not going to do anything but exit stage left when the peanut butter hits the fan.
We need an Olympic competition for BS. With all the slipping going on, the USA needs to be winners at something. And there can be little doubt that our academic types would routinely bring home the gold.
Finding qualified judges would be a problem, of course. Unlike most Olympic events, speaking BS and knowing BS are not even remotely the same skills. While I am certain there must others who qualify, yours is the only name that pops into my mind as an Olympic quality judge of BS.
This is so typical of liberal progressives. They pretend to be full of compassion while speaking softly and sounding so innocently. They openly admit their tyrannical undemocratic plans, but they sound so nice! Remember, if you express any anti-government ideas, you are a radical and are therefore a danger to the community.
This country will be immensely improved once the university system collapses and the parasites posing as college administrators are put to work digging ditches and cleaning septic tanks.
I had lots of different jobs before becoming an academic and a teacher.
I've looked on, stupefied, as men and women with lots of academic acronyms attached to their names fails to accomplish the simplest tasks. Some of them I wonder if they could even piss their pants without aid.
Such as repainting the furniture and the walls of a room.
Since they are feminists (both the men and the women), they don't listen to the one man who's done such thing as a job, but instead they forged ahead.
So some of them started painting the pock-marked concrete walls with a nice shade of purple they had picked out in broad daylight. For a windowless room having only the old kind of fluorescent lights so common in institutions.
While a couple of others started belt-sanding the laminated wooden tables and the hard-lacquered chairs in the same room at the same time.
No plastic sheets sealing off the room from the corridor. No masks. No ventilation to cope with the dust. No putty to smooth the walls. No base-coat or anything. Not even paint made for concrete; it turned out they had bought latex-based paint. The flaking and the bubbles and the pock-marked walls gave it a nice 1970s bad acid-trip vibe at least.
And when they gave up immediately on the second day, seeing what a dog's vomit they'd made of things, they blamed me.
Because "Why didn't I say so?" To quote myself:
"I did you silly pansy! But you refused to take advice and listen."
The women quickly decided it was the men's fault (mainly mine) since men are supposed to know these things and should have helped them out better. These women were typical middle-aged academics from the humanities in the early/mid-1990s, so women born in the 1950s and 1960s.
Been there. Done that. Could tell a similar story about watching a group of humanities lecturers attempting to start a fire at a winter outing. Apparently I was somehow at fault for the failure of their paper matches to ignite a haphazard pile of 10 to 12 cm logs.
I don’t understand the mentality of anyone from at least my age (50) or older who would think this think could ever be plausible. Growing up with Soviet Russia and the eastern block countries in the news seemed to be enough of a grand lesson. It’s exactly what not to do. Never mind every Cuban’s story who escaped that socialist hell hole. I get so angry and disgusted.
History being unwritten. We have a subsidies going to schools that are paying for teachers and professors to teach their political beliefs and not history. They don’t teach any other subject with facts either. It’s all interspersed with DEI. All this while people are underwater in predatory student loan debt. Debt being used to teach this bullshit.
Our God given First Amendment rights are nicely supported by our Second Amendment rights. Go ahead and try to criminalize speech ... there won’t be enough rocks for the Luciferians to hide under.
I have friends whose son is addicted to multiple drugs and he can’t get counseling for underlying PTSD from a sexual assault in childhood. When I hear this lame bullshit about those of us making others sad with our misguided/ignorant/selfish/pick one behaviors/thinking, it really pissed me off. People are suffering with very serious issues and I should give a rat’s ass about what nitwits think? (In my book they don’t qualify as midwits.) Fiddling while Rome burns.
"If somebody is radicalized, and wants removal, move away from that, how can we help them with counseling, for example, to get them away from that ideology?"
-------
Yes, because a bunch of just-"radicalized" (wtf does this even mean in reality?) dudes are going to ask Jay Inslee to set up a meeting with a counselor.
What world do these people live in?
Pro tip for Inslee et al., telling people they must be mentally ill if they disagree with your crazy schemes is exactly how you "radicalize" them.
"What world do these people live in?"
A very frightening one for the rest of us.
We don’t have to put up with their shit.
Sluggish Schizophrenia returns!
Here in Sweden our authorities used to call it "Paranoia Querulans", meaning someone who didn't accept the governement's word just because they (the individual) was in the right both legally and morally.
Or in other words, someone who dared stand up against governement back then (1930s-1950s) could be declared mentally ill, sterilised and institutionalised.
You'd think having that in our recent history would vaccinate people against the notion that "governement says so" equals right and just and true?
No such luck. If I had a crown for everytime I've heard "But they said soon state TV/radio!" as a proof of truth, I could buy Alaska.
The Soviets labeled dissidents as mentally insane. The Maoists labeled dissidents as rightist counter revolutionaries. We must counter the woke cultural revolution with free speech: https://yuribezmenov.substack.com/p/counter-the-cultural-revolution
I know an NYC EMT who took the jab to keep his job. He didn’t want it. But went against himself to keep his job. It was an emotional and spiritual conflict within himself. Resulting in emotional pain. Now, he is forced to agree with some DEI crap to keep his job. It’s churning him up inside. They assault your body and mind by holding your livelihood hostage until you put what they want inside your body and mind. and for those of us with some semblance of an independent brain and soul it is very damaging to confirm. Resist at all cost. Or it will get worse. Guard your body your mind and laugh at these fools who actually don’t have respect for humanity. In their guise of kindness these types are so assaultive and controlling. These 2 probably have been programmed to carry out this crap and don’t even know it.
Honestly, I'd like to punch the next AssHole that says anything about misinformation and/or disinformation in the fucking face!
An elegant solution.
from a more civilized age
Not to mention those in Cali talking about “it” may be disappointed about what is considered “it” in Texas. It’s all so damn foolish. A truly first world problem.
Trudeau will be first...I guarantee you.......
I've learned to take a completely new approach to reading proposed legislation:
Before reading the first sentence, I say to myself: "This was written by a lobbyist, with the goal of moving public funds to a commercial or ... ahem ... "non-profit" organization."
And, voilà!, the legislation is perfectly logical, if no more useful. For example:
"Identifying community-led and evidence-based solutions to combat disinformation and misinformation, address early signs of radicalization, and develop public health-style responses…."
That's lobbyspeak for funding a research project by someone who hired the lobbyist.
This is a shrewd approach.
I suspect much of the legislation enacted in recent decades was proposed, and written, by lobbyists. In all levels of government. Perusing almost any legislation, it appears as if the goal of the document is to either allocate or distribute funds to specific groups, OR, to extend the reach and power of some bureaucracy.
Tragedy of the commons applies to legislation and allocation of "public funds" too.
FL Rep. Matt Gaetz was on the TimCast IRL podcast, right after the McCarthy confirmation. He was startingly frank in describing how the legislature goes about its business, including the lobbyists' role in creating and forcing legislation. Literally, pulling the curtain back on the wizard.
It's a shocking podcast and well worth watching from start to finish. A couple of years ago, "they" went after him hard, trying to take him down with a phony scandal. After watching the interview, it's obvious why. He's a threat to the establishment.
Oprah Mussolini! I’m dying laughing.
Agreed! That was the gem of the day.
Oh my. You nailed the entire lefty movement with "Oprah Mussolini." I think I love you now. ❤️🤡😆
Mr. Ferguson has been studying V.P. Harris' polemical style, grammar, and presentation.
Danny Huckabee
Exactly! As I read it, I was thinking Kamala Harris must be his media coach.
I thought I was moving to a great place when I came up from CA in the late '80's.
A few looked at me like 'really - can't you just stay in CA?'. But most were real friendly and eventually I came to see most of the people I met were from CA as well. Now I see what some
feared on first meeting me (oh no another one) has somehow panned out. WA is now
CA. So is OR. The whole W. coast is hosed. I think stuff like time for ID or MT next?
Maybe it's long past that and time to dig in and fight. If not us, who? I stole this line
from Elizabeth Nickson - full disclosure.
"There is no other ground of freedom than the one you now stand upon.
Defend it or your children will live in tyranny. "
They are already in Wyoming and Montana. The other problem is that if you listen to or read some of the “thought leaders” on the yuppie right, they sound as unrealistic as the Lefties.
“We’re gonna build artificial islands in the sea and live in geodesic domes and run them on blockchain and libertarian unicorn power.” Uh no you aren’t. These folks have the same academic pedigrees, professional backgrounds and lifestyle as their leftist counterparts and they are not going to do anything but exit stage left when the peanut butter hits the fan.
We need an Olympic competition for BS. With all the slipping going on, the USA needs to be winners at something. And there can be little doubt that our academic types would routinely bring home the gold.
Finding qualified judges would be a problem, of course. Unlike most Olympic events, speaking BS and knowing BS are not even remotely the same skills. While I am certain there must others who qualify, yours is the only name that pops into my mind as an Olympic quality judge of BS.
I award the State of Washington a 9.75.
The Russian judge awards a 3.25
OK, I just had to clean my keyboard fro you two! Thank you :) no really.
…from… still slippery…
This is so typical of liberal progressives. They pretend to be full of compassion while speaking softly and sounding so innocently. They openly admit their tyrannical undemocratic plans, but they sound so nice! Remember, if you express any anti-government ideas, you are a radical and are therefore a danger to the community.
This country will be immensely improved once the university system collapses and the parasites posing as college administrators are put to work digging ditches and cleaning septic tanks.
Would you trust college administrators to dig a ditch?
Can you imagine trying to teach college administrators HOW to dig a ditch?
I can.
I had lots of different jobs before becoming an academic and a teacher.
I've looked on, stupefied, as men and women with lots of academic acronyms attached to their names fails to accomplish the simplest tasks. Some of them I wonder if they could even piss their pants without aid.
Such as repainting the furniture and the walls of a room.
Since they are feminists (both the men and the women), they don't listen to the one man who's done such thing as a job, but instead they forged ahead.
So some of them started painting the pock-marked concrete walls with a nice shade of purple they had picked out in broad daylight. For a windowless room having only the old kind of fluorescent lights so common in institutions.
While a couple of others started belt-sanding the laminated wooden tables and the hard-lacquered chairs in the same room at the same time.
No plastic sheets sealing off the room from the corridor. No masks. No ventilation to cope with the dust. No putty to smooth the walls. No base-coat or anything. Not even paint made for concrete; it turned out they had bought latex-based paint. The flaking and the bubbles and the pock-marked walls gave it a nice 1970s bad acid-trip vibe at least.
And when they gave up immediately on the second day, seeing what a dog's vomit they'd made of things, they blamed me.
Because "Why didn't I say so?" To quote myself:
"I did you silly pansy! But you refused to take advice and listen."
The women quickly decided it was the men's fault (mainly mine) since men are supposed to know these things and should have helped them out better. These women were typical middle-aged academics from the humanities in the early/mid-1990s, so women born in the 1950s and 1960s.
Been there. Done that. Could tell a similar story about watching a group of humanities lecturers attempting to start a fire at a winter outing. Apparently I was somehow at fault for the failure of their paper matches to ignite a haphazard pile of 10 to 12 cm logs.
Only if I could put them in it.
For public humiliation purposes only of course 😉
I don’t understand the mentality of anyone from at least my age (50) or older who would think this think could ever be plausible. Growing up with Soviet Russia and the eastern block countries in the news seemed to be enough of a grand lesson. It’s exactly what not to do. Never mind every Cuban’s story who escaped that socialist hell hole. I get so angry and disgusted.
That’s the problem, too many people who are too young to remember the Soviet Union.
History being unwritten. We have a subsidies going to schools that are paying for teachers and professors to teach their political beliefs and not history. They don’t teach any other subject with facts either. It’s all interspersed with DEI. All this while people are underwater in predatory student loan debt. Debt being used to teach this bullshit.
Our God given First Amendment rights are nicely supported by our Second Amendment rights. Go ahead and try to criminalize speech ... there won’t be enough rocks for the Luciferians to hide under.
>>>one that's led by the community
I'm pretty sure they don't mean *my* community: the pro-Trump AR15 (et al) community.
I honestly do not believe they have thought this through. They are so dumb!
"We decided that it'd be in your best interests if we put you somewhere you could get the help you need."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdUBTE9JpgI
All I wanted was a Pepsi
I have friends whose son is addicted to multiple drugs and he can’t get counseling for underlying PTSD from a sexual assault in childhood. When I hear this lame bullshit about those of us making others sad with our misguided/ignorant/selfish/pick one behaviors/thinking, it really pissed me off. People are suffering with very serious issues and I should give a rat’s ass about what nitwits think? (In my book they don’t qualify as midwits.) Fiddling while Rome burns.