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The difference being that at least you wouldn’t be forced to subsidize the madness with your taxes.

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Which is why we left NY for FL. We were done with subsidizing our own oppression.

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Same. Moved in April 20.

Never been happier

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Taxes are only essentially used these days to keep little people in place, they aren't really paying for state operations like you think. What is the debt level for California? What is the debt level for the entire United States? The country has been functionally bankrupt since 2008 (yinz guys didn't really protest that one did ya, but its lead to where we are now). People say, why are these corporations doing things that alienate their customers? Because they don't need you, and the states don't either anymore. They just print what they want. How much did .gov bailout the major corporations in 2020? Do you remember? Bet you don't because the media was blaring on how everyone was gonna die. Do you remember Occupy Wall St? Funny how all the gender and racism stuff really ramped up after that huh? Divide and conquer, you don't live in a republic or a democracy, you live in a feudal corporate system with .gov as the king and everybody else as dukes an earls.

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This is from May of 2020:

https://youtu.be/jdeRF5KiUm0

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Also for the consideration of the readers here. This gentleman makes a fine argument, but decide for yourself: "A good-sized book could be written about the causes and consequences of these shifts. The short form? The United States of America is bankrupt. Our governments from the federal level on down, our big corporations, and a very large number of our well-off citizens have run up gargantuan debts, which can only be serviced given direct or indirect access to the flows of unearned wealth the United States extracted from the rest of the planet. Those debts cannot be paid off, and many of them can’t even be serviced for much longer. The only options are defaulting on them or inflating them out of existence, and in either case, arrangements based on familiar levels of expenditure will no longer be possible. Since the arrangements in question include most of what counts as an ordinary lifestyle in today’s United States, the impact of their dissolution will be one for the record books."

https://www.ecosophia.net/dancing-on-the-brink/

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unless Gavin is Prez.

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I'm convinced that's why Pelosi didn't retire - she wants him installed in the WH.

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Small comfort when you are hunting through a bag of medical waste for your son's block and tackle.

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I've posted this before, but I think two things: (1) normal people are more likely to win (re: state laws) if you're not outnumbered the way you are in Cali--maybe Colorado, for example, is a good place to make your stand; (2) California's overreach is so intolerable and dangerous that I would not expose my child to that risk for a moment. Living in a more normal state doesn't mean you don't have to be vigilant or do the hard work of fighting the PTB every freaking day, but it is *more likely* outside California that your kid can (for example) avoid being injected with bull**** madness and still have a life. But I don't live there. Maybe it's not as bad as it sounds from your columns.

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This was my point (since he used my comment) - I would never risk my kids to this. Can you fight the fight AND keep your kids safe in SoCal? I doubt it. My duty is/was to my kids first. Nowhere is perfect obviously. Red States have plenty of progressives who want to bring this in. Moving to a big city (vs smaller towns) in a red state is probably only buying time. But time is what you need because there is no way the backlash to the trans agenda doesn’t happen. Mutilating children and calling yourself the good guy can’t last because children will grow up and realize what’s been done to them. It’s going to get very very ugly.

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Exactly. We used to live in California and now live in South Carolina. You see upstate liberals moving here attempting to bring the madness but they are just too outnumbered by the conservatives here. I too am hoping that by the time the lawsuits hit and people realize this makes lobotomy look like child's play we will have weathered the storm.

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Right, exactly. We moved from PA to FL. It is not perfect here, but the parents destroyed the district's mask mandate by sending the kids to school without the masks, and forcing the district to admit that it couldn't send hundreds of healthy kids home to be basically truant day after day. There are *enough good people* here to stand up. There were not, in my old state, nor (it seems) are there in CA. I could have stayed, bankrupted my family by suing over participation in an outdoor sport with a mask mandate, etc., but I refused to make my child the tip of the spear. She has one life, and my number one job is not to F it up. If we were in the early days of Nazi Germany, I'd have been the first one selling everything I had to get an exit visa. There were not enough good people to fight that evil, backed as it was by the vast power and wealth of industry (nice historical notes on Krupp et al in *Diary of Man in Despair*).

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Good on you!

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It was not easy. We were in a terrible rental unit for months. Our homeowners insurance here is 4x what it was in our old house, and the "new" house is much older and smaller. The extended fam, for the most part, did not take it well. But we're through the worst of it, and as I often tell people, in our first few weeks in FL, we were invited to (and attended) a Super Bowl party. My kid went to a spring dance in 2021. We went to church indoors without a mask on at any point. People hugged us. I can't imagine, at this point, not having done what we did, even if it had been much, much harder. Here, when we fight (and we do), we are nowhere near alone. And I'm someone who literally gave the bishop a PowerPoint presentation against Common Core in our old state. I am not afraid to fight; I just know when the game is too rigged to contest.

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At work now. Would love to comment further.

It is uncanny how similar our efforts and experience are.

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And I will also say that the time to stand up in California was many, many years ago when they got rid of every vaccine exemption. Any state that bends over that far to pharma has to be fought even if you love the MMR. And not enough people did. So it's definitely not possible for decency to win there now. There is too much money at stake.

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"But time is what you need...."

You could be right.

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Unfortunately, Colorado is no longer sane - we have become as bad as California. You can not make a stand here, as it is a losing fight. People with what was a "normal" view of the world as little as 5, maybe 10 years ago, are vastly outnumbered. The hinterland counties are sparsely populated compared to the front range. And for a variety of reasons, I am stuck here for the foreseeable future.

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Colorado still has philosophical, religious, and medical vaccine exemptions. That puts it head and shoulders above California. I've never said any state is equal to Florida, but I do think if Chris wants to fight, places like Colorado are still save-able. I don't live there; maybe there are dozens of bills in the legislature that will, by the end of the year, make it literally exactly like CA, but I don't think so. I would separate the cultural things (your neighbors thinking "trans" is legit and that most white people are oppressors) from the legal things (the state can take your kid and give him cross-sex hormones, and CRT is in every elementary school curriculum). I think the "culture war" is, in some ways, distracting. The legal war is the one to win. The only "transgender" person I ever knew personally (in college) thought hormones and surgery were pointless, and just cross-dressed and went by a man's name. That person would not have advocated for taking children away from parents. Nor would any of my gay friends in my college and post-college days. And I've known plenty of people who talk a lot about racism and systemic inequality who don't want CRT to replace math class. I don't need my neighbors to share my views. I just need them to keep their hands off my life, and the lives of my family members.

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The culture war is definitely a distraction. Agreed,100%. I believe that it is a fire that is intentionally and constantly fed. However, strong social pressures are brought to bear on people and it often works to gain compliance.

Every employed person I know who actually sought a vaccine exemption had to fight tooth and nail to get it, with one exception. A friend had to endure weekly ritualized shaming by lining up to get a test. My sister, working as a remote medical coder in another state for a Colorado hospital was denied exemptions multiple times despite having multiple known drug allergies. She finally actually was able to get an exemption but it took a great deal of effort.

The people I know who did not have to fight are self employed (myself included). But I listened to clients talk about how the unvaccinated needed to "just die", while I worked in their homes. None of them actually asked my status. When I was asked my status,I told the truth.

Maybe that does indeed put Colorado head and shoulders above California, but that's not what I am seeing. I am seeing this state rapidly sink into the morass occupied by California, Washington, Oregon and Minnesota. Again, social pressures forcing compliance. I'm a native and have been here over 50 years.

I am one of those "just want to be left alone types". Every day, there is constant meddling. Maybe not from my direct neighbors, but the pressure is there.

Hopefully you are correct and Colorado is salvageable. I'm not convinced, but I'll continue to push back from here. Fingers crossed.

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Good comments, TheBigOh. I like to step back and keep perspective of the big picture, to remind us of what we’ve already lost, via a thousand tiny cuts. For example, a state ‘allowing’ exemptions isn’t actually progress; it’s the opposite, to me. What I mean is that no one should ever have to apply for an exemption, subject to approval. All one should have to do is say no to any medical treatment (nope - it’s not a vaccine) they don’t want. This right is already covered under our existing laws, after all. Our existing individual rights under the Constitution are being violated every day in a number of ways. We don’t need new laws…we just need to follow and enforce the ones already there. It’s very discouraging.

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Agreed. Cathleen. The exemptions should never have been an issue because mandates never should have existed. Corporate, government, nothing.

It should have been a VERY simple matter of choosing to take or not take a poorly tested, experimental mRNA treatment, which had never been used in humans before, and with a track record of failure in many animal populations.

The clotshot mandates were abhorrent. And I'm being generous, at that.

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And, even if the mRNA injections *had* been properly tested for years, and had indeed been somewhat ‘safe’ and ‘effective’, to me that’s not the point at all. No matter what the drug is, every person has the right (legal, moral, and ethical) to decline.

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I take your point. The shaming and invasion of bodily integrity of weekly testing is harmful, in itself, and is a powerful enough reason for many just to give in. I wish there were a nationwide map rating states on freedom in ways that matter. Perhaps the enemy has already made one, and someone can post a link. NVIC has the exemption map, with details by state (and CO took a giant step in the wrong direction in the summer of 2020), and HSLDA has a map of paperwork intensity for homeschooling, but there are lots of other things that matter, like the age at which the state considers kids able to do crazy stuff and have the state hide it from their parents. Then there are the disincentives (such as those you mentioned) to living a free life. The me of 1983 or even 1992 would not recognize our country today.

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I'm having a difficult time reconciling 2010 and now. We ended up homeschooling through what is called an umbrella school, which is oddly allowed in both Colorado and California. Record keeping was light.

In any case, the voters keep going lockstep, mostly, with the progressive wing of the democrat party here. There are always exceptions, but they are fewer and fewer.

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My impression is that an umbrella school makes some of the paperwork easier. We have been homeschooling for nearly a decade, but without the umbrella. In my former, paperwork-heavy state, I used to laugh at how much documentation was required, given that all a kid had to do to get promoted in the public school system was show up most of the time. I had to document what we did in every class, literally every day, for the required number of school days per year, with a date assigned to each day. And that was just part of it. There was also required standardized testing, an evaluation by a state-licensed teacher, etc. There still exists in the public mind the idea that homeschool families just let their kids run around in the yard, illiterate. Nothing could be further from the truth for the vast majority of homeschool families, and given the level of functional illiteracy in this country (all of it among adults who went through either public or private schools), it's deranged that anyone considers *us* the problem.

Pharma already had a hammerlock on the FDA by 2010, but a lot of the other parts of the machine were still being built, and the cramdown hadn't hit most of the states yet. I was just looking at an email I received from FDA that's part of its GMO propaganda, funded by the taxpayer, and set into motion by a 2017 appropriations act. In my youth, industry had to fund its own propaganda, with the exception, I suppose, of the arms industry.

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Colorado is not headed in the right direction. Look at the BS prosecution of Tina Peters, who was simply doing her job by exposing election fraud. Fascists.

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The kids are different now, because of Plastics, which contain Endocrine Disruptors - Common Chemicals that Severely Alter Hormones - Dr. Shanna Swan https://rumble.com/v29safs-endocrine-disruptors-common-chemicals-that-severely-alter-hormones-dr.-shan.html The answer may need to consider this element if we are gonna be able to address why the kids seem so different now. 75 years of plastics, 3 generations, cumulative effects are real. Dr. Swan explains the science clearly.

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Plastics are a big factor, as well as the increasingly bad "food" supply, vax damage, and overprescribing meds (especially antibiotics) for every tiny issue. Throw in decades of propaganda and it's no wonder so many people, especially the young ones, are painfully uncomfortable in their own bodies.

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Look no further than Roman 1. Because they no longer honor or give thanks to God....v 24 "Therefore God gave them over in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, that their bodies might be dishonored." Read the whole thing, it describes exactly what we are seeing.

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There it is Dan!

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Many thanks for the link!

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There is practicality to moving. I did it 31 years ago (MA to GA). I'm grateful every day for the kindness and thoughtful sanity of my neighbors. But, as Chris points out, the problems of our former homes will eventually follow to our adopted homes. If not in our lifetimes, then in our childrens'.

When visiting my family, I still shake my head regarding how intrusive the government is in their daily lives. In a place where rebels shed first blood, 248 years ago, because they wanted freedom from tyrannical rule.

My sister, still in MA, shares a good laugh about the fact that I just installed electrical service to a shed, did the work myself, and paid $25 for a permit. She had her kitchen redone, paid over $1300 for the permits, and by code, she had to replace the existing gas stove with an electric stove.

Concord Bridge still stands. America? Not so obvious.

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Have to disagree. The only way this madness ends is the greatest parasites the world has ever known are starved of the money that has allowed them to grow into Godzilla sized maggots. We've reached peak parasite here in the US. It's time for everyone to dust off their copy of Atlas Shrugged and read up on what happens to clown-world when the adults decide to disappear.

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I think you're correct to fight for your home. These people are everywhere: the only difference is that in your state, they control everything at this point. But as Herbert Stein, the economist observed, when there is something that cannot last, it won't. He was speaking of economic policies but it applies to much else in our world. The key is to identify those people who agree with you and unite with them. You are the majority, even in California, but just disorganized. And pray for deliverance.

Danny Huckabee

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Tanzania is looking pretty good. This is all about creating a 3rd class of people. That's the destination. Transexsual is transhuman. They will allow it in sports first. That's the crisis they created. The 3rd class is the soution everyone likes... There will be few rules, so embedded tech will become the norm. They will shatter all known records. This is about opening the door.

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Who will be the first to break the trans barrier?

Notice you don't see women wanting to be men wanting to get a penis and go to the guy's bathroom. It seems to all flow one way mostly.

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Following the money, men "becoming" women means a whole new market sector for clothes, make up, etc., etc. Women "becoming" men means a lot less dough gets spent on beauty products.

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Well Chris, dems are moving there - in droves. Do you want to lose more ground to wokeism?

In the near term - California is a lost cause. It won’t be forever. Eventually, they’ll come limping back to the rest of the sane world - asking for help and assistance in retransitioning to ‘sane’.

Until then, head east. Rip off your rear view mirror, to avoid temptation.

Georgia is a great destination- and they could use some help preventing Fulton County from stealing another election. #duecesCali

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Exactly, exactly. Help keep other states from the abyss. CA is already gone, at least for probably my lifetime.

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As the most clever sharp-tongued interwebz feline never tires to intone,

🗨 the civilization you save may be your own.

😊

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This is my biggest issue with what I'll call the "Redoubt" idea, which I hear a lot - "Oh, just move to Texas/Florida/Some Other Red State." I call it the Redoubt Idea because it's literally how it's been described to me multiple times; retreat and fall back to an "easily defensible" position. It makes sense in theory, and it has it's appeal, but at the same time, it's only a temporary solution, and a flimsy one at best. The sad fact of the matter is there is no Redoubt they won't crush. It may take time, one may be built that takes them years and years to chip away at, but they'll do everything they can to bring it down. Worse - and this is a more controversial and subjective argument - but I think it's actually a bad idea to gather in one place. If everyone moved to Florida, and, a decade later, for whatever reason, Florida is co-opted through a shady election or some such means, what then? Everyone scatters again? How long until there's no where left to go? At what point is running no longer an option? And by that point, will it be too late? There's a certain saying that I'm not keen on repeating verbatim for reasons I'm sure you can understand if you know it, but 20,000 people in one place can be easily dealt with - 200 people in 2,000 places is a different story. I know it's in a different context, but I think it's still valid here. 20,000 Washingtonians fleeing to Texas will never be able to put an end to Inslee's madness. 2,000 of them in 200 towns across Washington? Headway can be made. There's a chance you can make a redoubt where you are and claw back territory, I think, slowly but surely.

To anyone who's in this situation, I'm by no means saying don't leave California or Washington or apparently Wyoming or whatever state you may be in. You should, and ASAP. I don't fault anyone for wanting to leave, and, frankly, despite my highfalutin talk, I fully concede that if I had kids in these places, I'd already have my bags packed. What I mean to say is, wherever you go, know you'll have to dig in and get ready for it to follow you, because it absolutely will. If Texas, Florida, and other such places are going to be the redoubts, better work to make them ironclad, because alternatives will be precious few if those go sideways.

The good thing is, I'm optimistic we're witnessing a sea change in the broader culture, at the moment. If there's ever been a time to stand firm, it's now.

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Well put - you cannot win by going on the defence.

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This is a permanent, red line - you can't install Communism without capturing children. This is pure evil.

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you CAN move away from it, Chris. I did. It's NOTHING like this where I am. Get out! Small towns in farming country where there's some awake people. That's the ticket to the future.

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“The moment is here now” Exactly. This is the only moment which counts!

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I’m guessing and hoping you have found a robust health freedom community where you are? I hope you’re gathering! We are thriving here. I’m attending the wedding of a health freedom couple who met in 2022 next month. We’re proportionately small here but have spent the last three years finding each other.

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Head on, eyes wide open and barefaced. Sing it brother. God bless you in that crazy place. I’m just a little north of you in California Light.

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The other problem is this: Eventually the crazies move to Wyoming (or Montana or Florida) and start voting. All it takes is a city full of them to outweigh the countryside. Remember, the rural parts of California are, for the most part, sane. Georgia would be red as a cherry if it weren't for Atlanta. The same pattern is repeated across the country. All you need is a large urban area full of "enlightened" Democrats totally disconnected from reality and boom . . . you have Colorado, which is to say, California lite.

I don't know what the solution to this is, other than to say that as nice as the thought is, you can't outrun this craziness, as Chris Bray says.

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