Gosh Haidt is so annoying. He’s such a coward and won’t say that lack of true religion and a spiritual crisis is causing people to be addicted to the screens
Reading the quote from the “Trump is toxic masculinity” article, I assumed the article was written by an AWFL and I thought - where is Nick’s father? So then I clicked on the article and found that the quote was from Nick’s dad. No wonder the kid is looking elsewhere for masculine leadership.
Shakespeare agrees with you: "Such men as he never be at heart's ease whilst they behold a greater than themselves." Caesar, Act.... someplace in there.
I love when people quote stuff while not worrying about chapter and verse and quotation marks. Shows you knew the emotional dimension of something when you saw it.
Yeah, at first glance I thought that Guardian article was written by a woman. It just had that feeling. Then I read the passages where the writer identified himself as the 21 year kid's dad.
Either it's fanfic written by a woman pretending to be a man, or it's the girliest girly man to roam God's green earth.
That piece was a rough read. The dude (and I hesitate to call him that) just glosses over the fact that he got divorced and I'm sure the sons perspective would be... Interesting, to say the least lmao
This new buzzword “ JOY” really speaks volumes to how clueless or willingly dismissive Democrats are of the financial struggle our economy is burdening people with…. Rent, insurance, fuel, food , etc and our newly crowned Marie Antoinette pleads for donations flashing her $62K Tiffany golf necklace…. Somehow Harris is more tone deaf than Hillary Clinton…..That’s hard to do.
Heard that her rally in Phx, people had to SHOW ID but that’s beyond the pale & raaaaacist to do same to vote. The country, unfortunately for some of us, is getting what it deserves
This focus on "joy" has been a savvy move on her campaign's part -- so far -- as they're using it to do a Reverse Uno on the attacks on her laugh and speeches. It takes the focus away from her policies and replaces it with a cult-of-personality approach.
Which is just what her stans on social media and in the MSM want it to be about. Kamala the Joyful Warrior; Tim Walz the Happy Warrior. It's all about iconography they can align themselves with for likes. And media is running with this narrative with enthusiasm. They're all about the vibes and how it's exciting the Harris/Walz ticket's supporters.
I find it in stunning bad taste. There not too much to be happy or joyful about these days. The deception the US Government has perpetrated on the American people is heinous. Starting with Hillary, to COVID, to framing Trump to masquerading Biden as normal, etc etc etc… they continue to offend the shit out of anyone who is not a sheep… their arrogance is rife.
She's also said to be a termagant. We all remember the fifty - one intelligence officers who swore that the Hunter Biden laptop was ingenuine. We need to find at least as many former Harris employees who will testify to what a superb**** she really is.
It's terrible that this is what politics have decayed to, but we did not start it. We are true reactionaries. We just wanted to be left alone. They wouldn't do it.
For another thing, I hope the Trump campaign is preparing scores of ads which will show Harris at her most vacuous, as hard to determine as that may be.
This would be a masterstroke: getting Estee Palti, the comic actress whose Harris impression is uncanny and a delight, to introduce Trump at his biggest rallies. ( If you don't know her work, go to her YouTube channel. I don't know how much of what she - as - Kamala says is pre written and how much is Miss Palti's improvisatory genius. My favorite is one she's used a couple of times, Kamala talking about drawing inspiration from her ovaries. )
It’s worse than that. Joy, Hope, Peace…. These are words you find in church services. Democrats worship the government and this conflation of words is intentional and is not subtle.
I first began to notice this "Why are you so obsessed!?" style of argument when Jesse Singal and other writers began to gently prod the sacred Trans narrative. Because Trans is sacred it can't be rationally discussed or questioned (especially with non-cult members), anything not obedient and worshipful was treated as moral pollution and instead of debate a line of attack was created where the REAL mentally ill person was the journalist asking questions.
"Like, why are you so obsessed!!? The science is settled, love wins, it's just being polite and helping poor sad children find their True Authentic Self™—why are you like totally such a white bigot?!"
I guess this means we've replaced the evil white male habits of reasoned debate with the evil white female habits of social shunning, rumor and gossip, and cooties?
The Age of Social Media is truly the stupidest time in all recorded history, we are menaced by armies of entitled children who've never read a book, never countered an unapproved thought, but have rock-solid opinions on everything, at least until the virtual herd decides a new opinion is needed.
American Idiocracy needs and deserves Kamala as its queen, she is the emptyheaded empty vessel that best represents what we've become in the second decade of the 21st century.
“The Age of Social Media is truly the stupidest time in all recorded history, we are menaced by armies of entitled children who've never read a book, never countered an unapproved thought, but have rock-solid opinions on everything, at least until the virtual herd decides a new opinion is needed.” This. Thank you.
If you’ve ever been on the ground during one (say Beirut in the 70’s or Yugoslavia in the 90’s), you wouldn’t say that. If it happens here in the states, it’s going to be both of those on steroids.
There is the counter-arguement that when you bottle up the natural conflicts between peoples who are more-or-less forced to live together, for whatever reasons, conflicts like the two you mention are the inevitable result.
In my language, we say "Lika barn leka bäst" = "Like likes like", roughly translated. It bears out - serbs with serbs, kroats with kroats, et cetera. Mix'em all together and it always turns out volatile, once the dictatorship holding the lid on is removed.
And the US of A has been virtually forcibly mixing peoples for +70 years now. Jugoslavia is what you'll be getting if you're lucky. Odds are increasing year over years that you're facing the same as the USSR did in the 1980s: slow dissolution into natural territories.
Your point is well-made though: while I understand the sentiment of wanting the bad burned away, in reality (as I've seen myself more than once) that's not what happens.
How do these adult children speak like this without the slightest self-awareness?
Their parents and teachers failed them. Anti bullying campaigns prevented peers from keeping each other in check. Now they bend over to big daddy government and want us to join their human centipede. Mockery is the best way to subvert them.
Tim is my dad. He’s replacing my real dad, the one he sent to a senior citizens home during COVID to die alone and afraid along with 6,700 other Minnesota seniors. Hooray for father Tim.
I’m old enough to remember last month when no one liked Kamala Harris. And someone online called me a trumptard yesterday for pointing out that France recently had a massive decline in fertility rate. The left’s tolerance for anything or anyone outside their cult has hit rock bottom and their love of everything in the cult is growing exponentially.
I don’t think I noticed it before the first Clinton campaign in ‘92, but there’s been a surge of people wanting to feel like their president cares about them, personally. It’s only gotten worse since then. I realize it’s a fundamental problem with people not understanding their government or their role in it, but it’s both a pet peeve and it creeps me out.
Having government take a personal interest in you is like having Sauron’s eye taking an interest in Frodo. It isn’t going to end well for someone. These people want government to be their security blanket, a surrogate parent. It just doesn’t DO that sort of thing. Government is force, and when it takes a personal interest in a person, it’s to be their jailer.
The liberal Government wants their people to want them. For 80-90 years that's all Government has been doing - making it so people rely on mommy Government for everything. You are correct - it's all about power. When the Government has it, you don't.
I'm glad you used the word repulsive to describe the media's sycophantic fawning over Kamala and Tim Walz, it's exactly how I feel about these stories. Repulsive.
Our discourse has been reduced to “Democrats are good, kind-hearted people” and “Republicans (or conservatives) are hate-filled meanies.” That’s it. This is the “conventional wisdom” of our politics, with no regard to substance or actual reality. It is all feelings and empty woo.
*Donald Trump says we lose masculine power when we treat LGBT+ people like humans?* I don’t condone Trump’s past behavior. But the alphabet soup is at the expense of womanhood. Who’s protecting female sports? Who’s protecting our daughters & granddaughters? The world (as small as it is) may be pursuing ambiguity. Ambiguity = chaos.
"This ride only stops at an emergency. Crying is not an emergency"
I guess wide swaths of the society has really gave up contributing anything forward. This is nihilism at it's apex.
Also curious, that one of the main points against the more autoritharian type was always, that "they need a dear leader/big daddy who solves their problems". As I see it, this dad only is in their heads, because no responsible father figure would let his children stay this vulnerable against the world. No father have ever say to them, "Don't know son, solve it somehow" or the most important in this context "You can cry, as long as you still do it".
Goodbye...have to thank someone, for not raising me incapable of living.
Related, Jon Haidt on "civilisational collapse."
https://x.com/triggerpod/status/1822694472880165069
Gosh Haidt is so annoying. He’s such a coward and won’t say that lack of true religion and a spiritual crisis is causing people to be addicted to the screens
https://dailysceptic.org/2024/08/11/nhs-staff-told-to-ask-men-if-they-are-pregnant-before-x-rays/
You maybe have seen this already. It’s about entering into a new dark age.
Reading the quote from the “Trump is toxic masculinity” article, I assumed the article was written by an AWFL and I thought - where is Nick’s father? So then I clicked on the article and found that the quote was from Nick’s dad. No wonder the kid is looking elsewhere for masculine leadership.
Right?
there's nothing eunuchs hate more than intact men with large cojones.
Shakespeare agrees with you: "Such men as he never be at heart's ease whilst they behold a greater than themselves." Caesar, Act.... someplace in there.
I love when people quote stuff while not worrying about chapter and verse and quotation marks. Shows you knew the emotional dimension of something when you saw it.
“there's nothing that Hugh Roth hates more than intact men with large cojones.”
Willie the Shake describing what we now know is the consequence of unchecked envy, narcissism.
Also this: “… gentlemen in England now a-bed
Shall think themselves accursed they were not here,
And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks
That fought with us upon Saint Crispin’s day.”
“there's nothing beta males and trans pervs hate more than intact men with large cojones.”
alt version
🤭 love it
Spot on. Holy cow. I thought the same thing!
I assumed it was a quote from Karen, because, as we know...Karens can come in all genders these days.
Yeah, at first glance I thought that Guardian article was written by a woman. It just had that feeling. Then I read the passages where the writer identified himself as the 21 year kid's dad.
Either it's fanfic written by a woman pretending to be a man, or it's the girliest girly man to roam God's green earth.
That piece was a rough read. The dude (and I hesitate to call him that) just glosses over the fact that he got divorced and I'm sure the sons perspective would be... Interesting, to say the least lmao
This new buzzword “ JOY” really speaks volumes to how clueless or willingly dismissive Democrats are of the financial struggle our economy is burdening people with…. Rent, insurance, fuel, food , etc and our newly crowned Marie Antoinette pleads for donations flashing her $62K Tiffany golf necklace…. Somehow Harris is more tone deaf than Hillary Clinton…..That’s hard to do.
Heard that her rally in Phx, people had to SHOW ID but that’s beyond the pale & raaaaacist to do same to vote. The country, unfortunately for some of us, is getting what it deserves
That is hysterical!!!
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/kamala-harris-panned-requiring-id-enter-arizona-rally-after-previously-painting-voter-id-laws-racist.amp
This focus on "joy" has been a savvy move on her campaign's part -- so far -- as they're using it to do a Reverse Uno on the attacks on her laugh and speeches. It takes the focus away from her policies and replaces it with a cult-of-personality approach.
Which is just what her stans on social media and in the MSM want it to be about. Kamala the Joyful Warrior; Tim Walz the Happy Warrior. It's all about iconography they can align themselves with for likes. And media is running with this narrative with enthusiasm. They're all about the vibes and how it's exciting the Harris/Walz ticket's supporters.
I find it in stunning bad taste. There not too much to be happy or joyful about these days. The deception the US Government has perpetrated on the American people is heinous. Starting with Hillary, to COVID, to framing Trump to masquerading Biden as normal, etc etc etc… they continue to offend the shit out of anyone who is not a sheep… their arrogance is rife.
Well said Mrs.M 👍🏻
It’s all just too barfy……BARF!!!!!
“Happy happy, joy joy!
Happy happy, joy joy!
Political philosophy as crafted by Ren and Stimpy. Well, mostly by Stimpy, truth be told.
She's also said to be a termagant. We all remember the fifty - one intelligence officers who swore that the Hunter Biden laptop was ingenuine. We need to find at least as many former Harris employees who will testify to what a superb**** she really is.
It's terrible that this is what politics have decayed to, but we did not start it. We are true reactionaries. We just wanted to be left alone. They wouldn't do it.
For another thing, I hope the Trump campaign is preparing scores of ads which will show Harris at her most vacuous, as hard to determine as that may be.
This would be a masterstroke: getting Estee Palti, the comic actress whose Harris impression is uncanny and a delight, to introduce Trump at his biggest rallies. ( If you don't know her work, go to her YouTube channel. I don't know how much of what she - as - Kamala says is pre written and how much is Miss Palti's improvisatory genius. My favorite is one she's used a couple of times, Kamala talking about drawing inspiration from her ovaries. )
But they both have a great laugh!
You should have heard the intro to Josh Slocum’s Disaffected podcast yesterday. It was fit for Tales From the Darkside. It was beyond creepy.
It’s worse than that. Joy, Hope, Peace…. These are words you find in church services. Democrats worship the government and this conflation of words is intentional and is not subtle.
I first began to notice this "Why are you so obsessed!?" style of argument when Jesse Singal and other writers began to gently prod the sacred Trans narrative. Because Trans is sacred it can't be rationally discussed or questioned (especially with non-cult members), anything not obedient and worshipful was treated as moral pollution and instead of debate a line of attack was created where the REAL mentally ill person was the journalist asking questions.
"Like, why are you so obsessed!!? The science is settled, love wins, it's just being polite and helping poor sad children find their True Authentic Self™—why are you like totally such a white bigot?!"
I guess this means we've replaced the evil white male habits of reasoned debate with the evil white female habits of social shunning, rumor and gossip, and cooties?
The Age of Social Media is truly the stupidest time in all recorded history, we are menaced by armies of entitled children who've never read a book, never countered an unapproved thought, but have rock-solid opinions on everything, at least until the virtual herd decides a new opinion is needed.
American Idiocracy needs and deserves Kamala as its queen, she is the emptyheaded empty vessel that best represents what we've become in the second decade of the 21st century.
“The Age of Social Media is truly the stupidest time in all recorded history, we are menaced by armies of entitled children who've never read a book, never countered an unapproved thought, but have rock-solid opinions on everything, at least until the virtual herd decides a new opinion is needed.” This. Thank you.
And thank you!
At this point, I m having a hard time not just saying “ let it burn “….
If you’ve ever been on the ground during one (say Beirut in the 70’s or Yugoslavia in the 90’s), you wouldn’t say that. If it happens here in the states, it’s going to be both of those on steroids.
They're so stupid it feels like I've been inflicted with a 100 year sunburn...every time they open their mouths.
Death by thousand cuts and fingernails down a chalkboard.😂
LOLOLOL
Cooties!
There is the counter-arguement that when you bottle up the natural conflicts between peoples who are more-or-less forced to live together, for whatever reasons, conflicts like the two you mention are the inevitable result.
In my language, we say "Lika barn leka bäst" = "Like likes like", roughly translated. It bears out - serbs with serbs, kroats with kroats, et cetera. Mix'em all together and it always turns out volatile, once the dictatorship holding the lid on is removed.
And the US of A has been virtually forcibly mixing peoples for +70 years now. Jugoslavia is what you'll be getting if you're lucky. Odds are increasing year over years that you're facing the same as the USSR did in the 1980s: slow dissolution into natural territories.
Your point is well-made though: while I understand the sentiment of wanting the bad burned away, in reality (as I've seen myself more than once) that's not what happens.
So, why does America deserve better than Beirut in the 1970’s or Yugoslavia in the 1990’s? Why should America escape judgement?
A cackling perfect vacuum.....
Sadly this is truth
I TOTALLY agree. Real formative change will happen if and only if we permit and accept the unchallenged to solidify their version of total power.
True Authentic Self™ is the paraphilia named “autogynephilia”.
We're now in the third decade of this insanetury but you nailed it.
How do these adult children speak like this without the slightest self-awareness?
Their parents and teachers failed them. Anti bullying campaigns prevented peers from keeping each other in check. Now they bend over to big daddy government and want us to join their human centipede. Mockery is the best way to subvert them.
Even though I was bullied mercilessly, I say bring bullying back in the real world, not pathetic cyber bullying lol
Tim is my dad. He’s replacing my real dad, the one he sent to a senior citizens home during COVID to die alone and afraid along with 6,700 other Minnesota seniors. Hooray for father Tim.
I'm sorry for your loss. That had to be horrific. God bless you. 🙏
No f'ing brown stuff. I am trying really, really hard to be civil.
I’m old enough to remember last month when no one liked Kamala Harris. And someone online called me a trumptard yesterday for pointing out that France recently had a massive decline in fertility rate. The left’s tolerance for anything or anyone outside their cult has hit rock bottom and their love of everything in the cult is growing exponentially.
It isn't love, it's the mutual bondage you see in people in death cults.
Ode to "Joy"…
Oh the joy of having uncontrolled borders that allow millions upon millions of illegal aliens to enter the country unchecked.
Oh the joy of an already stressed health care system becoming further bogged down by illegals using it for free.
Oh the joy of seeing the taxes on our hard earned money being used to pander to, and support those who are here illegally.
Oh the joy of having elections that are so loosely monitored that the public has lost confidence in the outcome.
Oh the joy of having enough fentanyl coming unchecked across our southern border to kill millions of Americans.
Oh the joy of having sanctuary cities where illegal alien criminals are free to roam and prey upon American citizens.
Oh the joy of having a media that no longer seeks the truth, but has dedicated itself to supporting the Democratic establishment.
Oh the joy of having a country being led by an aging, mentally failing, habitual liar who has dedicated his life to enriching himself and his family.
Oh the joy of having our country run by an unknown, behind the scenes cabal pursuing goals entirely their own and not the electorate.
Oh the joy of having a two tiered system of justice where one political party is demonized, hunted down and imprisoned.
Oh the joy of having our government conspire with social platforms and the media to control, manipulate and censor information.
Oh the joy of anticipating life under a Harris/Walz administration.
But they are giddy with power.
But infantilism is so...comfortable. "Don't Worry, Be Happy"
I don’t think I noticed it before the first Clinton campaign in ‘92, but there’s been a surge of people wanting to feel like their president cares about them, personally. It’s only gotten worse since then. I realize it’s a fundamental problem with people not understanding their government or their role in it, but it’s both a pet peeve and it creeps me out.
Having government take a personal interest in you is like having Sauron’s eye taking an interest in Frodo. It isn’t going to end well for someone. These people want government to be their security blanket, a surrogate parent. It just doesn’t DO that sort of thing. Government is force, and when it takes a personal interest in a person, it’s to be their jailer.
The liberal Government wants their people to want them. For 80-90 years that's all Government has been doing - making it so people rely on mommy Government for everything. You are correct - it's all about power. When the Government has it, you don't.
I'm glad you used the word repulsive to describe the media's sycophantic fawning over Kamala and Tim Walz, it's exactly how I feel about these stories. Repulsive.
Our discourse has been reduced to “Democrats are good, kind-hearted people” and “Republicans (or conservatives) are hate-filled meanies.” That’s it. This is the “conventional wisdom” of our politics, with no regard to substance or actual reality. It is all feelings and empty woo.
All these AWFLs need a good stiff...er...it starts with d and ends with k.
Sorry but I think it's true...:)
I don't think a duck is going to help, Ryan.
Lol. You want to like this...but you "can't"!...:p)
“Ma’am, this is a Wendy’s.”
I wouldn't touch any of them even with your d and ends with k.
Do you really think it starts with a d?
Lolol
Hahahaha but unfortunately the real men I know wouldn't touch them with a ten foot pole. Fate worse than death
Is it something my name shortens to perhaps?
No can do I'm afraid - I'm married and besides, there ain't no way!
I've never ever touched three-baggers!
Lmao the only people "liking" this are females!
They get it...def not AWFLs
Ryan, help me out here…AWFL?
Affluent White Female Liberal
sometimes: AWFUL with "Urban" for the U
Love it! And they are the worst!! Self righteous virtue signaling snots!
As Mr Bray points out, they're not getting enough duck!
It’s so true.. the seething anger is always close to the surface……” ya know what ya need? “
What they really need is duck a l'orange. A little orange man with their duck.
I assumed A stood for Angry
i guess that could work too, maybe AAWFULs?
Thank you, Mrs. McFarland. I despise acronyms.
I’m 72, that’s my excuse!!
Never again...I promise Bobby!...:]
Drink?🤪
Exactly. Everyone else has deviant thoughts!
*Donald Trump says we lose masculine power when we treat LGBT+ people like humans?* I don’t condone Trump’s past behavior. But the alphabet soup is at the expense of womanhood. Who’s protecting female sports? Who’s protecting our daughters & granddaughters? The world (as small as it is) may be pursuing ambiguity. Ambiguity = chaos.
May posterity forget these were ever our countrymen.
May their chains rest lightly upon th-- nah.
When this is over, all the histories from 1965 - end date must be replaced with one word;
LOCUSTS
A society that looks to politicians for father figures is doomed.
"This ride only stops at an emergency. Crying is not an emergency"
I guess wide swaths of the society has really gave up contributing anything forward. This is nihilism at it's apex.
Also curious, that one of the main points against the more autoritharian type was always, that "they need a dear leader/big daddy who solves their problems". As I see it, this dad only is in their heads, because no responsible father figure would let his children stay this vulnerable against the world. No father have ever say to them, "Don't know son, solve it somehow" or the most important in this context "You can cry, as long as you still do it".
Goodbye...have to thank someone, for not raising me incapable of living.