That's the problem with Unions, and collectives in general, even when the collective majority despises them, they never seem to get fired (maybe if their members collectively chuckle they'll disappear back to the pit of hell).
Used to be, union reps were workers themselves, who did the union-work on the side. Dep. on which nation you look at, you'll see different things of course.
Here, union reps nowadays are generally junior politicians or politruks making sure the union toes the party line (and vice versa, some of our unions are very strong), but then again, we have a completely different history than the US.
Unions when I was young, Sixties and early Seventies, were useful to us working class doods. You didn't have much other recourse, in those days. Yes of course, many were corrupt (welcome to Earth) but still did their basic job. I worked Teamsters for awhile as a kid.
More similar than different here. Most Union “reps” are mandated to be paid by the employer for doing “union duties” and not for actual work, then the employer also has to pay someone to cover for that person not actually being at the job site. Additionally, most localities have passed laws that union participation (read, payment of dues) is mandatory, even if one does not choose to be a union member, or even get union representation. My experience was that the “Union reps” rarely rep’d for the employee, but always had time, energy and money for their political hostages that got them more money, power and perks. Government employee unions in my opinion (and experience) are the worst and most corrupt, followed closely by the UAW and UFW. The old days of the Union/Guild that actually looked out for the employees died many years ago, and most have fully morphed into the intended communist collectivist cells within the state apparatus.
Good on you. Actually, having you correct your mistakes makes me trust you even more. Just like gold is refined by going through the fire, your integrity has been tested and now proven. BTW, You are right to start with the assumption that the news is full of lies.
SOOOO many people cannot grasp that being upfront and open about an error (particularly one not likely to have been discovered) ADDS to credibility in the eyes of rational people. Then again, I’m from a generation where virtue has been far more important than virtue signaling.
One of the iron rules of authority (and by extension folks who primarily work in governing bodies) is that:
1) You never admit to a mistake.
2) You never apologize even if caught dead to rights.
Authority has multiple directives, and they are hierarchical.
1) The first is self-preservation.
2) The second is establishing competence.
3) The third is maintaining order.
All the rest (safety, justice, morality, etc.) fall subordinate to those.
You can see this from your dad to the po-po to a government agency to the three branches of government.
Admitting a mistake and/or apologizing may be the just or morally right thing to do, but it does nothing for self-preservation, maintaining competence, or maintaining order, and may hurt those directives.
I'm with you, Christopher. I learned a ton by Chris wandering through the bullshit-mere than I would have if we'd waited several days for an article, that was "correct".
I didn't see lots of folks (especially journalists) rushing out to that occupied -- PUBLIC -- campus to find out what really was going on, so his readership would know.
At this point, we’re all surprised when some leftist organization DOESN’T file a suit against Trump. Same holds true for Musk. Neither of them are the least bit worried and neither are we.
If political stories in the media aren't horseshit all the way down, at best they are reporting horseshit all the way down. Just a matter of degrees of separation.
Your only mistake was assuming the government would promptly update its website! Shame on you for your residual trust in the competency of our bureaucracies.
Chris, I probably learned more about the process and how to evaluate bullshit by you getting it "wrong" and walking us through the process. I think you did just fine.
I wouldn't change your evaluation processes much; I think your gut instincts are nearly 100% dead on. This was the exception that proved the rule, IMO.
Yep, the point is so the "fact checkers" can say, "Yes, the UAW filed charges against Trump." That's all anything is for these days -- a headline that some AI robot can say is "true."
The Lawfare tactics expand. We shouldn’t be surprised. I still maintain that Regime lawyers huddled with UAW lawyers and laid out the blueprint for the NLRB complaints.
One of the problems in our corrosive political environment is that everyday discourse is so callous, it's easy for people of good faith to see boogeyman and accept embellishments at face value.
After Trump was shot in PA, various parties claimed he played golf the next morning (which he did not). As if getting shot and then standing up and pumping your fist wasn't enough of a story.
WHO sounding the alarm bell on Monkeypox. Seems like a potential rehash of COVID gaslighting, right? But what if there is a legit outbreak that requires emergency measures in the places where the outbreaks are happening, and the alarm is appropriate?
I had somebody trying to convince me that ATF's shooting (manslaughter or murder, to my mind) of Little Rock airport exec Bryan Malinowski back in March was part of a coverup of Boeing's current, alleged misdeeds. As if the ATF's malicious behavior wasn't controversial enough already.
“But what if there is a legit outbreak that requires emergency measures in the places where the outbreaks are happening, and the alarm is appropriate?”
That is the societal price of our administrative agencies being led and staffed by people devoid of integrity. The lust for power solely for power’s sake is SOOO prevalent that it will take decades of selfless performance before agencies are trusted again on any decisions that affect government spending and/or diminution of individual liberty. I’m 70, and this will not occur in my lifetime.
The left does a fantastic job of shoring up their base, and stoking outrage. I'm not sure how effective that is in bringing in new voters, but it sure gets the Trump Derangement Syndrome set wound up.
reality is getting weirder by the minute. how can you file a complaint against someone you don't even work for who hasn't done you any harm? this is the words are violence crowd.
Yes, exactly. How can the United Auto Workers seriously claim that Donald Trump is the employer of any of their workers? Is there a secret Trump Golden Car Company I don't know about? It's a little—a little—more understandable in Musk's case, since he actually has an auto company. But if all he did was chuckle at Trump's words, how is that even remotely actionable? The whole thing reeks of frivolity.
It's as if they just *know* in their hearts that Trump and Musk are mean, greedy billionaires who obviously *have* to be mustache-twirling, monocle-realigning union busters who hate workers. It's of a piece with that inane "it's better to be morally correct than factually correct" nonsense that AOC graced us with. It doesn't have to be true or real; they all just *know* that Trump *has* to be a Bad Man. It's as I said recently elsewhere: according to The Narrative, Republicans and conservatives and anyone else who are not on board with the Democrats are just Bad People, full stop, regardless of the truth.
Don’t be hard on yourself for being “wrong “ on this. You’ve given it excellent coverage and all your readers are better informed than had you waited for the government website to serve the citizens by actually being prompt.
We should think of msm as fishwife, gossip mongers, they are after all the storytellers that manage the narrative set by those on the pyramid top.
The point is the smear, the threat, the shaming. Tech is only concentrating the means used from the beginning of time to manage throngs of people with tongue lashes and rumors and accusations of sin to ruin reputations. The powerful have developed whole new moral systems that can change at a whim and their enforcers are the media, the Karens and the emotionally challenged.
Shawn Fain is a gigantic puss. He's the kind of guy that got bullied in school and cried alot. Probably on the White guys for Kamala call. He'll probably line up for the monkey pox vaccine. I can't believe real men would choose him as a rep.
100%...no union does, IMO..... I am working with my third union and it is NOT the same as when I started 25 yrs ago..... I think they have been captured.....I have been saying it for a while but especially during COVID....and then I found this.......confirmation..... https://gettr.com/post/p1va6ik5a79
If Musk is under suspicion of nefarious chuckling, Kamala's laughter must be a crime fit for the Hague?
Silly unions, this will in no way endear them to anyone.
Maybe they should have stood up for worker's rights to not be fired for refusing an experimental injection instead.
That's the problem with Unions, and collectives in general, even when the collective majority despises them, they never seem to get fired (maybe if their members collectively chuckle they'll disappear back to the pit of hell).
Used to be, union reps were workers themselves, who did the union-work on the side. Dep. on which nation you look at, you'll see different things of course.
Here, union reps nowadays are generally junior politicians or politruks making sure the union toes the party line (and vice versa, some of our unions are very strong), but then again, we have a completely different history than the US.
Different history, different perspectives.
Unions when I was young, Sixties and early Seventies, were useful to us working class doods. You didn't have much other recourse, in those days. Yes of course, many were corrupt (welcome to Earth) but still did their basic job. I worked Teamsters for awhile as a kid.
More similar than different here. Most Union “reps” are mandated to be paid by the employer for doing “union duties” and not for actual work, then the employer also has to pay someone to cover for that person not actually being at the job site. Additionally, most localities have passed laws that union participation (read, payment of dues) is mandatory, even if one does not choose to be a union member, or even get union representation. My experience was that the “Union reps” rarely rep’d for the employee, but always had time, energy and money for their political hostages that got them more money, power and perks. Government employee unions in my opinion (and experience) are the worst and most corrupt, followed closely by the UAW and UFW. The old days of the Union/Guild that actually looked out for the employees died many years ago, and most have fully morphed into the intended communist collectivist cells within the state apparatus.
The Newspaper Guild used to be excellent.
Good on you. Actually, having you correct your mistakes makes me trust you even more. Just like gold is refined by going through the fire, your integrity has been tested and now proven. BTW, You are right to start with the assumption that the news is full of lies.
SOOOO many people cannot grasp that being upfront and open about an error (particularly one not likely to have been discovered) ADDS to credibility in the eyes of rational people. Then again, I’m from a generation where virtue has been far more important than virtue signaling.
One of the iron rules of authority (and by extension folks who primarily work in governing bodies) is that:
1) You never admit to a mistake.
2) You never apologize even if caught dead to rights.
Authority has multiple directives, and they are hierarchical.
1) The first is self-preservation.
2) The second is establishing competence.
3) The third is maintaining order.
All the rest (safety, justice, morality, etc.) fall subordinate to those.
You can see this from your dad to the po-po to a government agency to the three branches of government.
Admitting a mistake and/or apologizing may be the just or morally right thing to do, but it does nothing for self-preservation, maintaining competence, or maintaining order, and may hurt those directives.
I'm with you, Christopher. I learned a ton by Chris wandering through the bullshit-mere than I would have if we'd waited several days for an article, that was "correct".
I didn't see lots of folks (especially journalists) rushing out to that occupied -- PUBLIC -- campus to find out what really was going on, so his readership would know.
My time is short now. Can't afford to waste it.
At this point, we’re all surprised when some leftist organization DOESN’T file a suit against Trump. Same holds true for Musk. Neither of them are the least bit worried and neither are we.
If political stories in the media aren't horseshit all the way down, at best they are reporting horseshit all the way down. Just a matter of degrees of separation.
Your only mistake was assuming the government would promptly update its website! Shame on you for your residual trust in the competency of our bureaucracies.
Chris, I probably learned more about the process and how to evaluate bullshit by you getting it "wrong" and walking us through the process. I think you did just fine.
I wouldn't change your evaluation processes much; I think your gut instincts are nearly 100% dead on. This was the exception that proved the rule, IMO.
Totally agree….
The point was the headlines.
Yep, the point is so the "fact checkers" can say, "Yes, the UAW filed charges against Trump." That's all anything is for these days -- a headline that some AI robot can say is "true."
Ever wonder why we read Chris's articles?
"when I’m wrong, I’ll tell you that I’m wrong, and I’ll show you the trail of evidence to explain."
Don’t beat yourself up. You’re quicker and smarter than the deep state. Still right on target though.
The Lawfare tactics expand. We shouldn’t be surprised. I still maintain that Regime lawyers huddled with UAW lawyers and laid out the blueprint for the NLRB complaints.
One of the problems in our corrosive political environment is that everyday discourse is so callous, it's easy for people of good faith to see boogeyman and accept embellishments at face value.
After Trump was shot in PA, various parties claimed he played golf the next morning (which he did not). As if getting shot and then standing up and pumping your fist wasn't enough of a story.
WHO sounding the alarm bell on Monkeypox. Seems like a potential rehash of COVID gaslighting, right? But what if there is a legit outbreak that requires emergency measures in the places where the outbreaks are happening, and the alarm is appropriate?
I had somebody trying to convince me that ATF's shooting (manslaughter or murder, to my mind) of Little Rock airport exec Bryan Malinowski back in March was part of a coverup of Boeing's current, alleged misdeeds. As if the ATF's malicious behavior wasn't controversial enough already.
With AI, this will only get worse.
Ugh.
“But what if there is a legit outbreak that requires emergency measures in the places where the outbreaks are happening, and the alarm is appropriate?”
That is the societal price of our administrative agencies being led and staffed by people devoid of integrity. The lust for power solely for power’s sake is SOOO prevalent that it will take decades of selfless performance before agencies are trusted again on any decisions that affect government spending and/or diminution of individual liberty. I’m 70, and this will not occur in my lifetime.
The left does a fantastic job of shoring up their base, and stoking outrage. I'm not sure how effective that is in bringing in new voters, but it sure gets the Trump Derangement Syndrome set wound up.
reality is getting weirder by the minute. how can you file a complaint against someone you don't even work for who hasn't done you any harm? this is the words are violence crowd.
Yes, exactly. How can the United Auto Workers seriously claim that Donald Trump is the employer of any of their workers? Is there a secret Trump Golden Car Company I don't know about? It's a little—a little—more understandable in Musk's case, since he actually has an auto company. But if all he did was chuckle at Trump's words, how is that even remotely actionable? The whole thing reeks of frivolity.
It's as if they just *know* in their hearts that Trump and Musk are mean, greedy billionaires who obviously *have* to be mustache-twirling, monocle-realigning union busters who hate workers. It's of a piece with that inane "it's better to be morally correct than factually correct" nonsense that AOC graced us with. It doesn't have to be true or real; they all just *know* that Trump *has* to be a Bad Man. It's as I said recently elsewhere: according to The Narrative, Republicans and conservatives and anyone else who are not on board with the Democrats are just Bad People, full stop, regardless of the truth.
Don’t be hard on yourself for being “wrong “ on this. You’ve given it excellent coverage and all your readers are better informed than had you waited for the government website to serve the citizens by actually being prompt.
We should think of msm as fishwife, gossip mongers, they are after all the storytellers that manage the narrative set by those on the pyramid top.
The point is the smear, the threat, the shaming. Tech is only concentrating the means used from the beginning of time to manage throngs of people with tongue lashes and rumors and accusations of sin to ruin reputations. The powerful have developed whole new moral systems that can change at a whim and their enforcers are the media, the Karens and the emotionally challenged.
Chris, you were right. The smear was the point.
Shawn Fain is a gigantic puss. He's the kind of guy that got bullied in school and cried alot. Probably on the White guys for Kamala call. He'll probably line up for the monkey pox vaccine. I can't believe real men would choose him as a rep.
The president of United Auto Workers doesn't represent most autoworkers, at this point.
100%...no union does, IMO..... I am working with my third union and it is NOT the same as when I started 25 yrs ago..... I think they have been captured.....I have been saying it for a while but especially during COVID....and then I found this.......confirmation..... https://gettr.com/post/p1va6ik5a79