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Chris Bray's avatar

Adding that my advice for young men and women who are single and looking is GET OUTSIDE. Fit, strong, healthy, well-adapted people everywhere. Look for your future wife at a trailhead, I promise.

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A Whip of Cords's avatar

My only unmarried daughter, a college educated 31 year old, seems to have found her mate when an electrical contracting company showed up at her workplace to rewire the building. He’s the foreman of the crew. Not a “trailhead story” but similar. He chose the “trades” over college; he’s sharp, strong, gentle with her, yet able to lead a crew much older than him. Knows how to set up camp, fish, shoot, and change a tire. While nothing is guaranteed, I think there may be a lesson for single women there.

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PR's avatar

So what? The solution to the gender education gap is women marrying electricians? Again, the left FORGET that the real crisis is NOT the dating market. It the educational gap that they have created.

Men deserve equal education to women. Period.

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Neko's avatar

Do you have any idea how much the foreman of an electrical crew makes? What bloody fool would saddle themselves with $100k in student loan debt when they can go to trade school, get paid to learn, and earn $150k like that foreman probably is by age 31?

If he wants an education beyond that, get a library card. At least that doesn't automatically come with indoctrination.

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PR's avatar

A lawyers makes 200k first year. By 31, salary normally is in the range of 300k to 400k.

I was doing 250k in Spain (which is much lower) by 35. Now I make 500k. An electrician in Spain make 20 times lower.

Also, in most countries, collages cost almost nothing (like Spain, where college education is almost free) and the gender imbalance is similar. This is not a cost analysis: this is a cultural things. We havent teach males tonsekecet feminized professions nor forced women to chise masculinised ones.

Even if an electrician can earn 150k, his lower education will lead him to lower understannding of other aspects beyond his carreer (you dont only get carreer education at school), including polítics or health.

Even with the same salary, educated persons live longer as result of that.

Electricians are more exposed to job casualties and job disruption than a lawyer.

No! Men deserve the same level of education. Period!

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Neko's avatar

I'd shoot myself in the head were I a lawyer. So would most people. I would also point out that income and happiness are only loosely correlated. I was offered $175k (with the potential for much much more) a year writing investing agorithms for Black Rock (mind, never having attended taken a coding class in my life; I learned on YouTube). I quit after a month. It sucked ass. Now I do IT support for public libraries.

Universities are a wholesale waste of time for most people. To quote Gary Snyder - "grooming schools for the middle class non idenity". The sooner men recognize that being a man means blazing your own path through the wilderness, the better off we'll all be.

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PR's avatar

The question is if the feminist teachers are helping boys to chose their own path, or they are chosing the (fewer than before) paths offered.

Not everybody has to be a lawyer, but all have to be offered all paths.

And men are not being offered some paths in the same way than women.

As an example, you cannot have DEI programs for women excluding men from STEM (or promoting women into STEM, which is the same).

You cannot have men funding women Universities.

You cannot have a 100% female school Boards

You cannot have this type of things.

Its the reason of the crisis that Chris was refering. And clearly the Democrats have contributed to this crisis.

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Notes from the Under Dog L.'s avatar

I have so much to offer, and can't seem to make even 100K. Every "career" application is seeking to hire "diversity" a bellwether for a toxic, ideologically possessed workplace like the one I ache to leave.

What's a 63-year-old (white) woman to do...

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SMD's avatar

This disingenuous. Yes if you go to a top school and get really good grades you will get one of these soul crushing jobs. But if you go to a non top ten law school you better be in the top 10% minimum. The average lawyer most certainly does not make that. It is a very high risk proposition to go to law school thinking you will make six figures when you graduate. The world is littered with law school grads saddled with debt trying to scratch out a living.

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Greg's avatar

The "education" women get isn't worth a bent nickel. Various "studies" majors only serve to indoctrinate and brainwash the students, leading to the depressive symptoms described in the essay. Outside of the STEM majors, I wouldn't recommend this type of education to anybody. It's self defeating.

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PR's avatar

Men are lower is areas like Law, which is an impressive economic sector. While most of the ed. Women get is worth nothing, we are not working properly in the name of males.

Also, in most countries, Uni are subsidiazed by taxes. Taxes that males are paying... For women.

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Brandon is not your bro's avatar

Haha , I have 2 sons , we just talked about that !!! Did cactus to clouds ( 5:30 am Coachella Valley) and one of them said , this will be her first test .

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Brandon is not your bro's avatar

Pssst… No nails to break either

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Aviva W.'s avatar

Well I met my soon-to-be-ex-husband at the Niketown running club, just before he traveled to Montana for a 20 mile trail race, and he didn’t turn out to be well-adapted at all. Maybe I’m just unlucky.

This really isn’t the forum, but there is a genuine crisis in the characters of both men and women today. I’m in a support group with women from all backgrounds struggling to find themselves after being married to emotionally immature or narcissistic husbands. They might look happy at the campground but you don’t know what’s going on inside their home. I don’t pretend to have any answers but we see the results in the society crumbling all around us.

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Ronnie Schreiber's avatar

It's quite fascinating how many well-adapted women end up being married to emotionally immature or narcissistic men. One might think that if they were so well-adapted and wise, they might have chosen otherwise. Or, perhaps it isn't the men who are emotionally immature and narcissistic. Is someone with a Y chromosome allowed to say that today?

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Hannah Gridley's avatar

Most decent women are trained to give the benefit of the doubt in all circumstances and to ignore their instincts on the basis of “not being judgy.” Narcissists are incredibly able salesmen. They don’t show their true colors until months later, unless the person (rare) is trained to notice the red flags. Good women are routinely told to quit being too picky unless they want to end up alone. Or maybe she really is caught by good looks or a fancy job.

Guys falling for narcissistic, immature women are often thinking with their eyes or believing they can change her after marriage. Going in expecting to change someone is, of course, a losing battle.

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Ronnie Schreiber's avatar

So when women marry narcissistic men, it's because the men hide their true nature or because society pressures women, and when men marry narcissistic women, it's also men's fault. It seems to me that there's an avoidance of accountability.

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Ronnie Schreiber's avatar

So when women marry narcissistic men, it's because the men hide their true nature or because society pressures women, and when men marry narcissistic women, it's also men's fault. It seems to me that there's an avoidance of accountability.

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Ronnie Schreiber's avatar

So when women marry narcissistic men, it's because the men hide their true nature or because society pressures women, and when men marry narcissistic women, it's also men's fault. It seems to me that there's an avoidance of accountability.

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Aviva W.'s avatar

Did your wife know everything about you before you got married? Some things are not obvious. I think women today need to do plenty of work on themselves as well, and it’s too easy for either sex to simply blame the other as the source of all their problems.

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Leah Ruth's avatar

I agree there is a huge character crisis.

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Ronnie Schreiber's avatar

And yet somehow that character crisis is only seen to be affecting half of humanity. It's amazing how all women are above average.

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Leah Ruth's avatar

It affects both, obviously. Hating one side or the other solves nothing.

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Larry Bailey's avatar

Good idea

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Alex Rayman's avatar

Or in church

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Elmer's avatar

Try Ballroom or Swing dancing. Lotsa great babes.

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PR's avatar

Adding my advice for Young men: NEVER VOTE DEMOCRATS OR THE LEFT.

THIS HAS BEEN CAUSED BY PEOPLE LIKE YOU, CHIS.

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The Ungovernable's avatar

If there is a loss of masculinity in society it's because we've been beaten about the head by progressive psychopaths telling us all about toxic masculinity. Of course some men are going to retreat. That's a normal reaction to full on attack.

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Maria's avatar

I noticed as far back as 1993 that men were being emasculated in ads - Calvin Klein jeans comes to mind. All of a sudden the Marlboro man was gone, and not because he smoked cigarettes.

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David Poe's avatar

To them, boys are flawed girls.

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PR's avatar

There is only 1 solution. NEVER VOTE DEMOCRAT

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RU's avatar

Jeff Childers had a solid article the other day about exactly this. Dems are now studying why men left their party? LOL. Probably b/c the Dems have been telling men they are evil for 50+ years. You can now find men hiding out in every institution, trying to avoid the HR and management types, like a husband hiding in the garage when their wife is in a mood.

The irony is that all of the extreme dysfunction we see now is due to toxic femininity, which overtook western governments, corporations, and societies sometime in the 60s/70s. I can see at least three facets to toxic femininity: over-inclusion, over-nurturing, and over-protecting.

Due to these, everything - cities, schools, corporations - has come to resemble a psychotic version of preschool for adults...which turns out to look a lot like Gotham when fully implemented and regulated with the force of law.

The male approach to structure and leadership was much, much better and we need to go back to that asap.

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Nick Bowles's avatar

An every day dose of sanity, he is solid, Coffee and Covid will tell you way more than MSM

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John Duffner's avatar

There's also a very nasty, exclusionary, and vindictive flip side to all that.

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PR's avatar

100%

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Mrs. Itoldya!'s avatar

I love men! Strong, reliable, dependable, protecting & providing, MEN!

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Nick Bowles's avatar

Toxic femininity attacks us at all levels. But is it a retreat as you say? To lick wounds, to repair damage, well maybe so, but in order that we can come out and take more damage, absolutely not. As soon as you realise that sexual desire distorts perception you are into a different plane, when you can watch and listen to groups of women talk and realise that without sexual attraction they have very little, then there is no need to ever get back in the game, coffee shop brunch, meals out, weekends away, presents, jewellery, perfume, holidays - it never ends, romance is finance. The vagina is a cashpoint machine, always has been.

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PR's avatar

This has been caused by people like Chris. And now they are concerned? They SHOULD BE.

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Bud's avatar

I am certain that it's not right (and probably a sin), but I've started to enjoy the pain of these people. They are predominantly worthless shitheads (carbon dioxide machines) and their childish fits fill me with such schadenfreude that I actually WANT them to be as perfomatively tortured as they claim. There you have it... my confession for the week.

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Regina Filippone's avatar

If that requires confession , I’m in trouble

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Bud's avatar

On this thread, there would be a line around the block!

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Anndal Narayanan's avatar

Yeah, it is a sin to enjoy others' suffering, even if they are insufferable. But we're all sinners; it's what you do about it that matters.

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Regina Filippone's avatar

And probably thunder , lightening , hail and brimstone 😅

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Bud's avatar

If you haven't caught it already, check out the first video on Bad Cattitude's latest post. It proves my point entirely.

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CB's avatar

The carbon dioxide--it's what plants crave!-- may be their sole contribution to our world.

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Andrew Brunner's avatar

I believe the OXYGEN those plants produce from the CO2 is kinda' important too.

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No name here's avatar

Multiple cases of psycho women (Duke Lacrosse, UVA, Mattress Girl) lying about rape while the AWFLs howl "believe all women"...

Constant delusional girlboss nonsense for affirmation with no material objective or concern for other human beings at all (women are "underrepresented" in some fields? Elaborate on that. Do you want equality of outcome? If you don't, what aspects of human nature are you accounting for? Oh, you don't really have an objective? You have no actual, defensible percentage in mind? Is this about validating your feelings at the expense of others?)

Those terrible signs ("Believe in science"). Really? Is that how science works you fucking retard?

The "straight white men" garbage that we're supposed to pretend never happened.

The relentless performative activism... Standing in roadways... Ginning up ethic violence that gets people killed.

And on, and on, and on.

Then, it's "where have the men gone". Away from you lunatics. Literally anywhere else.

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PhDBiologistMom's avatar

“Believe all women” — unless they are named JK Rowling, Riley Gaines, Jennifer Sey…

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Clever Pseudonym's avatar

or survived the Nova Festival

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Brian Nelson's avatar

Nicely played.

bsn

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PhDBiologistMom's avatar

Thank you.

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

Telling it like it is!

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mileytheduchess's avatar

Ah, Mattress Girl! What ever became of her?

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Clever Pseudonym's avatar

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emma_Sulkowicz#Early_life_and_education

She seems to be a malignant series of cliches mixed with a few bad personality disorders and her "work" is all pseudoradcial narcissistic onanism (and stupid). She might just be the human incarnation of the Social Justice era.

I didn't know she was a rich kid too. Chef's kiss!

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Heather Boylen's avatar

Almost all journalists these days are rich kids, they’re the ones who buy into the liberal garbage so they’re the ones that get hired.

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PR's avatar

Never VOTE DEMOCRATS. NEVER

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David's avatar

Dems spending $20M to figure out where the dudes went and all they really needed to do is read Chris' Substack today.

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SamizBOT's avatar

It's all so fake and tiresome. Jose Padilla went to MIT and actually worked in the private sector as an engineer of some sort, yet he's out here doing this undignified la Raza bullshit. It's like Ted Cruz doing the snake handling pentecostal bit talking about Sunday school when he was hailed as a once in a generation legal mind by his Harvard profs. We're all tired of this

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Phisto Sobanii's avatar

Padilla is fake and gay in the extreme. My word.

Grown man, in a leadership position, complaining about his pain and trauma.

The mind reels.

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Mr Holmes's avatar

Jorge got his feelings hurt apparently

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Brian DeLeon's avatar

I was unaware California had a senator called Padilla. Never heard of him before.

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Jordan S's avatar

That’s why the performative outrage has been so good for his brand. I’m sure the donations are pouring

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Ripple's avatar

He was appointed by Newsom to replace Kamala when she became VP.

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CJinSD's avatar

Padilla's narrative began when he charged a woman giving a press conference to elicit a response from her security team that he could be a drama queen about. His tearful display over a name mix-up has since revealed him to be the sort of narcissistic pussy that actually would strike a woman, so it is a shame that his story didn't end the day that it started.

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John Duffner's avatar

He had a staffer there to film it, but not to help identify him to security.

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JBS's avatar

Wait, what did that professor say? I couldn’t hear her while pumping iron in my garage and then driving my kid to swim practice in a turbo V8 SUV while listening to Judas Priest. Anyway, want some jerky, bro? 😅

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Brian Nelson's avatar

...while listening to Judas Priest!!! CLASSIC!!! I nearly spit my food out reading that. LOVE IT!

bsn

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JBS's avatar

British Steel forever!

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Brian Nelson's avatar

Had a buddy in HS who was nukin' futs over Judas Priest. I still love rock, it is 90% of my iTunes, but only really familiar with 'living after midnight' and 'you got another thing coming' by JS.

In hindsight, I was lulled in by the 'glam rock' of Scorpions, Van Halen, Metallica, Journey...the junior high and high school dance music. So funny to reflect on this now.

We do this event in the summer, we race up and down stairs at this iconic stadium. It is relatively dangerous if someone falls, so we forbid ear buds. Instead we have a DJ and ask via Facebook for favorite workout songs...otherwise it is my playlists which sound an awful lot like a John Hughes Soundtrack!

Have a great week.

bsn

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John Duffner's avatar

Saw them live in 2014, which was also my introduction to Steel Panther who opened for them.

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Skenny's avatar

There are indeed two Americas. One of those doesn't know the other one exists.

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Clever Pseudonym's avatar

🎯🎯🎯

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Rascal Nick Of's avatar

I work in Coeur dAlene. Word on the street is that most of the No Kings protestors were actually from Spokane.

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Frontera Lupita's avatar

The difference of the psyche of Coeur d’ Alene and Spokane is like night and day. In COD, “men” with firearms defended downtown COD from the Antifa/BLM looters a few years ago. They stood at the ‘Gates of the City’ with their firearms, and let them know “you are not welcome here”! And I imagine they will do it again if need be!

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Valoree Dowell's avatar

The difference is simple: Idaho and Washington. Eastern Washington used to be different, but the state is now run by blue.

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Maureen Hanf's avatar

Right. Born and raised in western WA decades ago. Came over to the dry side for university. Left the state in my thirties although kept up with friends here (no family left to speak of). And just finally moved back from Illinois (most recently) which negatives were only balanced out for me with the lower cost of living and finally the negatives won out so back here just this month south of Spokane. And have to agree. Lots more blue than there used to be, although I’ve been meeting some very kind nonblue folks here and there.

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Frontera Lupita's avatar

I know I have been to both cities many times.

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Greg's avatar

It's still very conservative (I live in SE WA). Spokompton is a libtard island over here.

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

100%. At the beginning of the plandemic I took my family, for a month, to Coeur de Alene, but had to fly into Spokane.

Two different worlds separated by not so many miles.

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Frontera Lupita's avatar

Indeed! I love COD…nice city, beautiful lake, decent food (for Idaho) and nice people.

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Brian Nelson's avatar

Chris Bray and Coffee & Covid Childers for the 1-2 punch today! Both are terrific, both mention the deeply unhappy Rachel as well.

I may have mentioned this before here, but I think it is relevant today again. Back in March of 2020, right at the beginning of the madness, I texted an Army friend (I hired him as a Cadet when I was a CPT for a month’s work) to see if he’d wanna meet for a run and coffee at Solo Point (infamous running trail for anyone stationed at Ft Lewis over the years with Mike Foxtrot of a hill).

Today, the text thread has 14. Between 4-8 usually show up, with our dogs. We have run 95% of the Saturdays since March 2020.

Today, we ran an hour earlier so we could help one of us pack out his Uhaul boxes for a move to Wenatchee. He just passed the bar and was hired as a prosecutor.

6 guys showed up to do the MISERABLE work of moving heavy, awkward stuff downstairs into these portable containers. Another friend and his wife had prepared a farewell brunch for our friends after the work.

Everyone is married. Youngest is a 38 year old MD, oldest is me, 55 student learning construction. All military-most retired, a few only did their commitments.

Here is something Rachel doesn’t get. What we have, our little intimate ‘fat old field grade run group’ is Agape and/or Philia. We have grown to love and look out for each other and each other’s families.

This developed over 100s of 5-6 mile runs-slow but hilly and hard. We run, we walk a bit. We share our lives our struggles, our shames, our joys, our victories…all as our dogs run among us—then we go into Steilacoom and drink coffee and eat breakfast burritos or quiche in possibly the most quaint little spot in the country looking out at the Puget Sound with the Olympics in view (on clear days).

We earned what we have—and I had a real sense of this last night as everyone was checking in to see who would run, should we run and help move, just move—but what I have is a deep sense of security. I have a group of men on whom I can count when shit goes sideways.

Rachel, sadly, will have to use Task Rabbit to find help, and will be in a ‘hummingbird high hover anxiety’ whenever life gets scary. So sad.

Get outside. Get fit. Do hard with other men. Our male souls are dependent upon it.

bsn

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A Whip of Cords's avatar

Brian, Chris Bray and Coffe&COVID are my “go to’s” as well. Can’t do better than those two. I’ve got the same kind of tribe as you, too. Only pilots. Many are former TOPGUN instructors. I wish everyone had that sort of tribe.

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Brian Nelson's avatar

Whip,

That is terrific. There is another group of dudes who run through our main park every Saturday. Hyper successful group of men. I was talking with one of them the other day that we need to bring our groups together occasionally for a longer run/coffee breakfast.

The other tribe is about 10 years older than my group. I was thinking the other day about how I do not know how water gets to my house. Nor power. Nor gas. What happens if/when there are attacks on our infrastructure--and the people who know how to fix it are incapacitated?

I then thought that I want to bring this up with the other tribe and discuss creating a group larger group of "Countables". We need a network of men who can fix shit once everything goes sideways.

I'm using my GI Bill right now to learn residential construction/electrical/plumbing, then I'm gonna do some auto, then there is a one quarter welding class. I want to know how to make shit in the real world.

Anyway--I want to see if we can get a larger group of men--then have the water district give us an open house, then the power company, then the fiber network...so we can build in some redundancies of competence.

Our tribes keep us healthy, physically, mentally, spiritually. We have people other than live up to, and they live up to us. It is an upward spiral.

Have a great week Whip!

bsn

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A Whip of Cords's avatar

What a great idea. The kind of idea that makes you slap your forehead and ask, “Why didn’t I think of that?” Will be interested to hear how it goes.

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Brian Nelson's avatar

I'll keep you informed. My hunch is there are thousands of mini tribes akin to what you and I have found/formed. We should probably do something or prepare ourselves for something. It is also likely that these small tribes of 5-15 men are doers.

These doers need something to do-especially in the late 40s (military, police, fire crowd who retire early) 50s and 60s. We have the bandwidth to take an evening or two a week, get together. Learn how the everything works. Then organize. Rehearse. Create redundancies. For example, we all heat our homes (40 home small gated community). We could purchase/lease a 10K propane tank or a series of 1000 underground tanks in our 'water collection' area--that are waiting for 'the Cascadia Subduction Zone' earthquake when the PNW turns into the zombie apocalypse...all we'd need to do is switch the lines from gas to propane, and everyone home would need a different orifice on their appliances--but we'd have heat and ovens.

Now I'm thinking more while writing...but I imagine there would be corporate and/or government support for this as well. Get people trained.

In the Army we had "Combat Lifesaver". 1st Aid+. IV's, nasal faranges (spelling?), etc. Could be taught at fire departments one weekend a month. Get every other home capable of doing serious 1st Aid.

So many things we could do/learn/prepare for and get away from the news, commentary, narrative that is destroying us.

I'm gonna DM you.

bsn

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Rikard's avatar

"‘hummingbird high hover anxiety’"

Oh yeah, seen that a thousand and one times.

Did you see The Island-episodes where they have an all-male and all-female team, each on their own island?

I still relish the hysterical rage from online feminists when it first aired.

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Brian Nelson's avatar

I haven't seen The Island. We find a show and binge watch until complete. Currently in Season 3 of the very dark "Handmaids Tale".

I can only imagine the outcome of the all male vs all female. Likely a study in cooperation vs a study in a low trust team.

bsn

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Rikard's avatar

The guys started out by having an argument over who does what, sorting out the pecking order and getting the douchebag to reveal himself (and he left because they wouldn't let him be the boss).

The women started out with a big kumbaya about how they'd show the lads because women are so much better at getting along and cooperate.

As the days passed, the guys built a base camp by having the guy who proved he knew [insert task here] best be the boss when it was that task that was on the docket. Eventually, they had a primitive bungalow with a big grill and freshwater nearby, and such a good rota of work/play that they complained about it being too easy.

The women picked the first spot that seemed okay when they were dead tired from looking for the "perfect spot" that all could agree upon (i.e. nowhere), and then they stayed there despite it being a poor campsite. They failed to keep dry, they failed to keep the fire going, they bickered and bitched about everything, they got lost on an island not 10km across at the largest, they almost starved and needed saving by the production team, and some of them bailed out.

The show got virtually assaulted in mainstream media.

It all started when Bear Grylls did a show with 13 British guys on an island in 2014, trying to survive. After being called sexist and chauvinist and such for having an all-male team, he did the second one with one female and one male team.

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Brian Nelson's avatar

Fascinating. I was wrong--their 'hyper trust kumbaya did not allow for honesty and truth--which is what all of the male 'dick measuring' tactics we do with towels turned into rat tails, the teasing, the nicknames, the poking--find out who's weak and then isolate them cuz they are a danger to all of us--then determine who leads by competence.

I'll tune in. Have a great week.

bsn

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David Poe's avatar

I believe Theodore Roosevelt wanted the Boy Scouts to be mandatory. That would help if we went back to the early 1900s version

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JasonT's avatar

Bring back the draft. Two years.

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David Poe's avatar

A lot of the problems young people seem to have could be cured by a competent drill sergeant.

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Jane in Michigan's avatar

I often think of that. During prior decades, our armed services took men from all backgrounds and taught them self discipline and male virtues and they learned about defending their country and the importance of it.

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John Duffner's avatar

The military practices good race relations light years beyond anything that Robin DiAngelo or Henry "Ibram X Kendi" Rogers could dream of. Amazing what shared experiences, consistent standards, and having a mission in common can do.

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Jane in Michigan's avatar

Another wonderful feature!

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David Poe's avatar

Agreed - David in Michigan.

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David Poe's avatar

Agreed - David in Michigan.

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James M.'s avatar

One factor that is rarely remarked upon is that this desire for status and tendency toward performativity is almost exclusively demonstrated by the educated elite. Working class people are much less likely to pretend to be victims, or to virtue signal. Of course the elites don’t even recognize and acknowledge this. No one wants to feel like a coward, especially not cowards.

https://jmpolemic.substack.com/p/its-not-real

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CeeMcG's avatar

We have a second home in Coeur d'Alene and absolutely love it there. Clean, no homeless, very little crime, people are polite and respectful. My Aunt lives in Spokane Valley (which is nicer than Spokane, by a bit) but she loves to come over and stay with us when we visit and always fills up her gas tank and restocks her liquor cabinet purchases in Idaho before she goes home. The difference in a 45-minute drive is astonishing.

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Chris Bray's avatar

I looked this up as we sat there: Apparently Coeur d'Alene has a few dozen unsheltered homeless, and a few dozen more assistance-dependent sheltered homeless, numbering something like 120 in all. I was surprised. No encampments in evidence. I wonder how the city manages it.

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CeeMcG's avatar

They send them over to Spokane! In all seriousness, I'm not sure, but I know from our neighbors there that if someone is panhandling in front of a store or at an intersection there, you can call the Sheriff's department and they actually come and pick them up and take them away. I'm sure that helps discourage a lot of the freeloading. Law enforcement, such a novel idea. Oh, and all of the store signs are in ENGLISH! I was shocked the first time I went to Target there, since I'm used to the bilingual aisle signs in San Diego. So refreshing.

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Dena's avatar

Love Coeur d’Alene & Hayden/Hayden Lake! Find the iconic picture of how the locals prevented any 2020 rioting & destruction downtown when the troublemakers came to town.

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Chris Bray's avatar

Without googling, my guess is "guns."

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David Poe's avatar

I would bet that the State of Idaho will lock you up if you commit arson.

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

Because if they were merely injured with the first shot, there wouldn't be a need for a 3rd shot.

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CeeMcG's avatar

Funny thing - a lot of Los Angeles law enforcement (and other cities in California) moved to Coeur d’Alene after the Rodney King riots. Might be another reason they don’t put up with any crap.

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Artemus Gordon's avatar

I believe that officer Mark Fuhrman of OJ fame is also a resident of Sandpoint ID, just up the road a piece from Coeur d'Alene.

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Orwell’s Rabbit's avatar

I heartily second your “get out in nature” prescription. All these childish performances have become so very, very dreary. Looking forward to walking in the country, especially through sheep pastures. For all the disrespect these animals get, they actually have a very strong sense of community, and a richer life than the average AWFL.

OTOH, they poop everywhere!

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Regina Filippone's avatar

Please….. don’t insult animals , most of them are much smarter and not mentally ill. Unless , they have rabies. Has anyone checked these loons for rabies ?

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Orwell’s Rabbit's avatar

Ummm, the “animals” I was referring to were the ones with hooves, wool, and lanolin.😉

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John Anthony's avatar

Fine words tonight, Chris. Thank you for the calm sanity.

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PR's avatar

The ones that created this crisis has no moral authority to solve it

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