Skip the commentary and interpretation… …and read the court’s opinions for yourself. You can click on this link, or download and open this PDF file: The dissent of Justice Carlos Samour begins on pg. 146 of the PDF file. Read it, especially the second and final paragraphs of the excerpt below. This argument strikes me as not just correct, but as the beating heart of actual
The due process argument is interesting, as is this. It's not just a matter of taking Trump off the ballot. Even if voters write his name in, those votes aren't counted. So it's also disenfranchisement for voters. I frequently hear the argument of term limits and age limits on representatives and senators as being unconstitutional because you can't limit who people can vote for. Well, here we are. You're trying to tell people they can't vote for Trump because *Colorado* says he engaged in insurrection, whatever that is. Finally, the precedent this sets is nasty. Do they seriously think that this won't be abused in the future to keep "their guy" off the ballot? These people are so shortsighted it makes my head hurt.
I was born and raised in west by-God Texas but I’ve been in Colorado for 23 years now, 22 of them in a very rural setting. Urban Colorado is not Colorado anymore, it’s contemporary California. Boulder-Denver is now a Mecca for the Fuchsia-shirted Elites.
Most of the intelligent people have moved into the countryside--or Wyoming--and only the Intellectuals are left, working studiously to outdo their neighbors’ Smart Homes and EV’s and trans-kids.
I wish they’d all just got to hell, already. They will eventually.
"... Section Three doesn’t spell out the procedures that must be followed to determine whether someone has engaged in insurrection after taking the prerequisite oath. ... it sheds no light on whether a jury must be empaneled or a bench trial will suffice, the proper burdens of proof and standards of review, the application of discovery and evidentiary rules, or even whether civil or criminal proceedings are contemplated."
There's the play - the rat fuckers are using the Kangaroos of Colorado to SET LEGAL PRECEDENCE, which if not slapped down by SCOTUS, will mean that "insurrection" will be whatever, whenever so deemed, by any prosecutor or judge; likely useable in any convenient jurisdiction in any 'battleground' state.
“We had the candidate who is leading in all of the polls, and who has previously served as President, thrown off of the ballot. This is a huge victory for Our Democracy.”
The “our” in “our Democracy” is quite a tell these days. Which Democracy is who’s again?
It’s about time that the people who say we need to do something, actually do it. What’s it going to take before enough is actually enough? We’re due for a showdown. That’s for sure. That’s for danged sure.
Dec 20, 2023·edited Dec 20, 2023Liked by Chris Bray
from "Sundance" at CTH:
ABOUT THAT TRUMP COLORADO BALLOT THING:
The Colorado Supreme Court 4-3 Decision Is Pure Nonsense and Can Be Laughed At, They Even Admit It on Page 9...
[...Three main points before getting to the substance. [213 page opinion HERE]
#1) It was a 4-3 decision. Meaning it was the politics of the court, literally the political makeup and perspective therein, that determined the outcome of the decision. This is showcased in point #3, which is the funniest part.
#2) The entire framework of the case against Trump in the Colorado decision is predicated on this: “[the complainants] asserted that he was ineligible under Section Three because he engaged in insurrection on January 6, 2021, after swearing an oath as President to support the U.S. Constitution.” [pdf, page 6] REMINDER – President Donald Trump was not charged with “insurrection,” is not accused of “insurrection,” does not fit the complaint under the definitions of “insurrection,” and has never been found guilty of insurrection. The complaint is moot before the court. But hey, it’s Lawfare… and we all know Lawfare is created for public media consumption, so that takes us directly to the biggest point.
#3) Instead of me writing it, let me screengrab it so we can all laugh together [pdf page 9]. ...
The TDS just runs so deep. It really is a cult, they sit in their towers scribbling away looking for the magic formula that will defeat the demonic intruder. Hardcore true believers who devote their existence to harpooning their great orange whale. From hell’s heart, they stab at him.
All of this is a symptom of what has happened to our nation.
As the US moves away from Christianity, there is no moral foundation and certainly no moral absolutes.
Everyone is doing what is right in his own heart and the majority of the Colorado Supreme Court have decided it's right to remove Trump from the ballot regardless of the fact that he's been convicted of noirhing.
This will get thrown out by SCOTUS in about 5 minutes. Sick of these Commie activist judges.
Commies don’t care about the law. They use it as a cudgel. Starting with the DOJ and the vegetable in the Oval Office. Sad times for the Republicans. Just say no to Commies and RINOs. Your testosterone will go back up.
I pray that all of the proponents of convicting Trump on bogus charges shall experience the same thing. For months and months. And they need to feel the consequences. Monetarily, reputationally, etc. Then let’s revisit the topic.
If this is a state’s rights issue then Republican controlled states need to do the same. Ban every Democrat within the state from running for reelection. Then don’t allow the Democrat presidential candidate to appear on the ballot.
The due process argument is interesting, as is this. It's not just a matter of taking Trump off the ballot. Even if voters write his name in, those votes aren't counted. So it's also disenfranchisement for voters. I frequently hear the argument of term limits and age limits on representatives and senators as being unconstitutional because you can't limit who people can vote for. Well, here we are. You're trying to tell people they can't vote for Trump because *Colorado* says he engaged in insurrection, whatever that is. Finally, the precedent this sets is nasty. Do they seriously think that this won't be abused in the future to keep "their guy" off the ballot? These people are so shortsighted it makes my head hurt.
I was born and raised in west by-God Texas but I’ve been in Colorado for 23 years now, 22 of them in a very rural setting. Urban Colorado is not Colorado anymore, it’s contemporary California. Boulder-Denver is now a Mecca for the Fuchsia-shirted Elites.
Most of the intelligent people have moved into the countryside--or Wyoming--and only the Intellectuals are left, working studiously to outdo their neighbors’ Smart Homes and EV’s and trans-kids.
I wish they’d all just got to hell, already. They will eventually.
HOT SHIT. From 3rd paragraph of shared dissent:
"... Section Three doesn’t spell out the procedures that must be followed to determine whether someone has engaged in insurrection after taking the prerequisite oath. ... it sheds no light on whether a jury must be empaneled or a bench trial will suffice, the proper burdens of proof and standards of review, the application of discovery and evidentiary rules, or even whether civil or criminal proceedings are contemplated."
There's the play - the rat fuckers are using the Kangaroos of Colorado to SET LEGAL PRECEDENCE, which if not slapped down by SCOTUS, will mean that "insurrection" will be whatever, whenever so deemed, by any prosecutor or judge; likely useable in any convenient jurisdiction in any 'battleground' state.
Reading it now. Not impressed so far. This is another version of "The CDC says you're an anti-vaxxer so we're pulling your medical license".
I kept thinking, “Enough is enough. They’ve gone too far.”
I was wrong. NOW they’ve gone too far.
“In order to save the village, we had to destroy it.”
“The beatings will continue until morale improves.”
“We had the candidate who is leading in all of the polls, and who has previously served as President, thrown off of the ballot. This is a huge victory for Our Democracy.”
The “our” in “our Democracy” is quite a tell these days. Which Democracy is who’s again?
It’s about time that the people who say we need to do something, actually do it. What’s it going to take before enough is actually enough? We’re due for a showdown. That’s for sure. That’s for danged sure.
I expect a lot of folks will notice just how flagrantly the shark has been jumped.
from "Sundance" at CTH:
ABOUT THAT TRUMP COLORADO BALLOT THING:
The Colorado Supreme Court 4-3 Decision Is Pure Nonsense and Can Be Laughed At, They Even Admit It on Page 9...
[...Three main points before getting to the substance. [213 page opinion HERE]
#1) It was a 4-3 decision. Meaning it was the politics of the court, literally the political makeup and perspective therein, that determined the outcome of the decision. This is showcased in point #3, which is the funniest part.
#2) The entire framework of the case against Trump in the Colorado decision is predicated on this: “[the complainants] asserted that he was ineligible under Section Three because he engaged in insurrection on January 6, 2021, after swearing an oath as President to support the U.S. Constitution.” [pdf, page 6] REMINDER – President Donald Trump was not charged with “insurrection,” is not accused of “insurrection,” does not fit the complaint under the definitions of “insurrection,” and has never been found guilty of insurrection. The complaint is moot before the court. But hey, it’s Lawfare… and we all know Lawfare is created for public media consumption, so that takes us directly to the biggest point.
#3) Instead of me writing it, let me screengrab it so we can all laugh together [pdf page 9]. ...
SEE MORE:
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/12/19/the-colorado-supreme-court-4-3-decision-is-pure-nonsense-and-can-be-laughed-at-they-even-admit-it-on-page-9/
The TDS just runs so deep. It really is a cult, they sit in their towers scribbling away looking for the magic formula that will defeat the demonic intruder. Hardcore true believers who devote their existence to harpooning their great orange whale. From hell’s heart, they stab at him.
All of this is a symptom of what has happened to our nation.
As the US moves away from Christianity, there is no moral foundation and certainly no moral absolutes.
Everyone is doing what is right in his own heart and the majority of the Colorado Supreme Court have decided it's right to remove Trump from the ballot regardless of the fact that he's been convicted of noirhing.
Look for more rogue decisions. They're coming.
I keep coming back to what folk like Charles Jaco, Chris Hedges and Michael Yon ( all guys that spent time in war zones ) have said…
The spark for violence is always there…it’s the conditions that matter.
They setting up another BAD condition
This will get thrown out by SCOTUS in about 5 minutes. Sick of these Commie activist judges.
Commies don’t care about the law. They use it as a cudgel. Starting with the DOJ and the vegetable in the Oval Office. Sad times for the Republicans. Just say no to Commies and RINOs. Your testosterone will go back up.
The USA is now simply a huge game of Calvinball. I’ll tell you how it ends -- civil war.
I pray that all of the proponents of convicting Trump on bogus charges shall experience the same thing. For months and months. And they need to feel the consequences. Monetarily, reputationally, etc. Then let’s revisit the topic.
Anyone seen this? Democrats in D-controlled Oregon are banning Republicans from running for reelection:
https://www.frontpagemag.com/oregon-dems-ban-republicans-from-running-for-office/
If this is a state’s rights issue then Republican controlled states need to do the same. Ban every Democrat within the state from running for reelection. Then don’t allow the Democrat presidential candidate to appear on the ballot.