I wrote yesterday about a discussion between professional bootlicker-midwit Anne Applebaum and the historian Jefferson Cowie, a podcast on the website of The Atlantic that focused on the way mean racist white people resisted the efforts of the wonderfully benevolent federal government to protect native people and ensure their land rights during the 19th century:
Mango Mussolini posted above gets an honorable mention, but Trail Of Queers wins the internet for today. It's been three and a half years of Trail Of Queers, and at the head of it is Colonel Sam Brinton, leading with a rainbow flag to the heart of the Queerest Nation, California. Quick - someone go find some non-monkeypox infected blankets...
If Harris wins, they're going to co e for you and your family if they are Patriots. She has said as much. The trail of queers will be the ones coming for you.
If she doesn't win, then it'll be incumbent on us to use every means necessary to march half the nation Into the ocean. I'm tired and not co.promising any more. They will be shown no mercy when the shitbhits the fan. Mercy is God's job.
"...is about as highly regarded in academia as it’s possible for a historian to be, with a long series of awards and honors and an endowed chair at a major research university."
This is now a helpful signal to take - at best - whatever a person with this in their blurb says with a grain of salt. At worst, to assume everything they produce is conformist, worthless, agenda-driven agitprop.
“…awards & honors &…endowed chair….” as long as you’re the right kind of academic or historian that follows & promotes the woke & DEI narrative. Agree Fiendish that these are signals to ignore such people, as w/ the mask & jab fetishists
If you were to graph the likelihood of each of those 2 assessments (salt vs. agitprop) of most intellectuals’ writings, the “salt” outcome would be an asymptote, and the agitprop would be ≈100%.
Thomas Sowell wrote a book in 2010 (“Intellectuals and Society”) about the pseudo-intellectualism of intellectuals. While Sowell highlights that having a PhD in the mating habits of the giant Pacific octopus does NOT make one an expert on climate change or anything else other than horny octopi, Chris unfortunately exposes that they don’t necessarily know much about their field of purported expertise, or if they do, they prostitute it for political ends.
We saw this in spades during COVID. The jihad against the eminently qualified and outspoken critics of “accepted treatments” (McCulloch, Atlas, Bhattacharya, Kulldorff to name just a few) continues to this day.
At some point, revisionist historians will implement a “Fahrenheit 451” squad to purge materials they no longer view as “being in the mainstream.”
Awards and recognition from the globalist cabal are all indications of corruption. ALL of them. Nobel, Pulitzer, Tony-Emmy-Grammy, Kennedy Center, Phi Beta Kappa, Rhodes Scholars…..Start to recognize them as the negative indicator that they are, and things will come into clearer focus.
I’m pretty sure that one was for being the first American president to kill an American citizen by drone attack without due process (to keep the peace).
It was to make those who bestowed it feel very virtuous for having awarded it to him, I suspect. But I don't know, I wasn't there when the Nobel Peace Prize Committee decided.
Thank you Chris, you are like libs of tiktok of long-form podcasts. You endure what many of us would consider unendurable--listening to morons tell each other how delightful their very intellectual farts smell in their echo chamber, just to bring us these glimmering jewels of colossal ignorance. You are doing God's work, my friend.
Sadly, this looks to me like the purveyors of commie academic agitprop are now getting high on their own supply. Literate people know this is nonsense, but these people seem to have bought in.
I wonder what Cowie would say if challenged on the issue. I wonder even more what he'd have to say about how the indians treated each other during tribal wars. Because he doesn't strike me as being so blinkered he actually believe the old "noble savage"-claptrap about aboriginal peoples all being peaceful vegetarians singing Kumbaya around their emissions-free camp-fires.
But you have to take notice when a guy worth a few billion steps into the Cuisinart of politics because the Party keeps selecting milquetoasts devoid of any sense of realpolitik, and despite 8 years of legal Hell, signs up for yet another go. That doesn’t make his policies perfect by any means, but it sure suggests he’s not going sell his supporters out for votes.
YES.... I find it hysterical how many Christians have given this guy an almost godlike revenance. You guys sure he's Orange and not Golden? He's being g trwared almost like the proverbial Jewish golden calf.
When your political opponents go off the deep end, at some point their emotional reactions to potential candidates on your side become informative. Trump makes Democrat crazies go absolutely nuts, and that’s worth exploring. He has no loyalty to vested interests on either side of the aisle. His policies favor the working man and the businessman. What they DON’T do is favor the growth of government. Peter Thiel said something very relevant: “The press never takes Trump seriously, but it always takes him literally. ... His voters take Trump seriously but not literally…”
Is Trump perfect? Hardly. His execution in 2017-18 was terrible and some policies were highly flawed as introduced (e.g., Muslim travel restrictions). Some took time, e.g., transferring agency senior managers to “Schedule F” making them fireable without appeal rights when they resist WH policy directives. SO much knowledge was gained in Term 1 that Term 2 can start off with a bang (not a BJ Clinton bang).
I listen to what he says and have the attitude of "let's see if and how that actually pans out. I'm not a Tirump cultist. I was never MAGA if there was a movement I did ascribe to and believed in was the OG T.E.A. Party. Until the pussy party copped it and ruined it.
Now, I observe and pay attention just enough to be aware of when the Houses of Treason tty to stick their hands in my wallet. Otherwise I'm done with the whole shit show. Leave me be. If not remember that poem of men who wished to be left alone. That's how I roll. I'll flame both sides just to stir the pot as it's amusing.
Another example of a highly lauded historian who currently sounds like an idiot every time he opens his mouth is Michael Beschloss. He says that the only reason anyone would oppose our Ukraine intervention, is because they love Putin. He also said that those members of Congress who had not applauded Zelensky when Zelensky addressed them.... should be required to explain themselves. !!!!
I must admit I had a hard time wrapping my head around this one although he's hardly alone. How do otherwise intelligent people buy so completely into the current conventional wisdom to the extent they banish all thoughts that might tell a different story?
Liberals (particularly academics) suffer under a Maoist regime in which any deviation from dogma is punished severely. Moreover, liberals see themselves as morally perfect, so anything that casts doubt on that perfection (like facts) is denied to exist. It is the reason the Left so utterly despises Christians, for whom the fallen nature of Man is a foundational belief (one that I share if for no other reason than the evidence of its truth is abundant all around us).
So TDS manifests as some kind of science fiction-esque time machine. Orange Hitler is somehow able to control the past. In his truly wicked way, he forced the ever benevolent government of Andrew Jackson to ignore the rights of the noble indigenous saints. He permitted those evil settlers to steal their land. What a horrible man!
At some point it gets so painful trying to follow the excruciating contortions Cowie forces his “logic” through, I sincerely believe Medicare should foot the bill for the physical therapy my intellect is going to need to fully recover.
What seems to be left out of all these conversations is tht there has always been antagonism between the two parties. Yes, the 'two parties have morphed, but there have always been two parties, and they have always been antagonistic. So, when we talk about what the federal government did or didn't do, we need to examine which party was behind it, and not presume there was universal support. Because there never has been universal support for anything. We are led to believe that the two parties could always work things out agreeably, until Trump came along. That is a flat out lie.
It continues to amaze me that nobody mentions that Jackson was a founder of the Democratic party. (Yes, the name changed twice, but it was still the party that we today call the democratic party.) That would be the same democratic party that supported secession from the Union rather put up with the first Republican president, Abraham Lincoln. So, why do people refer to nineteenth century federal government as if it was of one mind? It never was. But the democratic party HAS always been the party of institutional racism. Slavery, Jim Crow, the KKK, segregation, inner city black ghettos are ALL creations of the democratic party. Any history teacher who has told you different is a democrat.
I agree with your thinking on Cowie but he's like all leftists, who have this romantic view of the stone age pagans who lived in this hemisphere prior to the white Christians. I'm from South Texas. The Karanchua tribes along the coast were cannibals for centuries, the Aztecs in Mexico were cannibals, practiced human sacrifice and slavery on a massive scale for centuries, and Kiowas and Comanches made war and slaughtered for centuries all over most of what is Texas, Oklahoma, New Mexico, and Northern Mexico all the other Indian tribes, plus any whites who got in the way. This was the case all over both hemispheres. If one tribe didn't wipe out another tribe, they "resettled" them by driving them out of their territory. So, all the writing about this or that government or private policy about Indian removal is so much waste of paper, time, and ink.
What isn't owned (property rights, for example) cannot be stolen.
Yes, the West botched the inclusion of *property-less* indigent human communities in its inevitable expansionary period.
We are far, far from that period today, and the pependulum has swung way too far towards that which never existed in the first place, is anathema to Western philosophy, and which might be the ultimate extinction of the West:
Jackson adopted an Indian child who, if I remember rightly, was orphaned by the death of his parents, during one of Jackson's campaigns against the Creek.
Jackson was one of the most complicated and difficult figures in American history. Did many things that seem contradictory or inconsistent, in fascinating ways.
I don’t think it’s any different than the Indians taking the children of white settlers they killed. It’s a form of genocide (esp., as we’ve redefined the word in the 21stC). Deliberately raising them in a rival culture could be both an act of general aggression and specific compassion. How many hunters have made pets of their game’s offspring?
Chris, I don’t think Jackson is anywhere close to a fair representation of the federal gov’t over its long and complicated history with the Indians. I won’t argue that it was a benevolent force but I believe from all of my reading that there was land grabbing at every level: lots of individual settlers that disregarded treaties and placed massive pressure on tge state & federal gov’ts, who also had their own interests. Ultimately, everyone was involved and the results bear out that simple obvious fact.
I agree that there was "land grabbing at every level," but the POTUS who wanted the Indian Removal Act and promised to implement it can't be minimized in the account of the result.
Is there nothing progressives can’t hitch to their Mango Mussolini hatewagon?
"Mango Mussolini Hatewagon"..... You deserve some kind of award for that one!..... Sounds like a 1990's Seattle punk-garage band name, lol.....
For real, Jersey -- if you didn't trademark that yesterday, it's going to be stolen 250 times by tomorrow morning. I'm stealing it right now, in fact.
I wish I could take credit, but it was a lefty in a Substack comment string. Although given that I can’t recall exactly who…calling my attorney now!
😳🙄 It does sound like a punk band! 😂🤣
Well, at least we'll have The Trail Of Queers (classical sense peeps....:=]) if Harris wins..
Mango Mussolini posted above gets an honorable mention, but Trail Of Queers wins the internet for today. It's been three and a half years of Trail Of Queers, and at the head of it is Colonel Sam Brinton, leading with a rainbow flag to the heart of the Queerest Nation, California. Quick - someone go find some non-monkeypox infected blankets...
Non monkey pox infected blankets - I just snorted my coffee out my nose 😂😂
Lolol!
lololololololololololololol -gotta breathe….
😂 Ryan
If Harris wins, they're going to co e for you and your family if they are Patriots. She has said as much. The trail of queers will be the ones coming for you.
If she doesn't win, then it'll be incumbent on us to use every means necessary to march half the nation Into the ocean. I'm tired and not co.promising any more. They will be shown no mercy when the shitbhits the fan. Mercy is God's job.
Groan...😔
"...is about as highly regarded in academia as it’s possible for a historian to be, with a long series of awards and honors and an endowed chair at a major research university."
This is now a helpful signal to take - at best - whatever a person with this in their blurb says with a grain of salt. At worst, to assume everything they produce is conformist, worthless, agenda-driven agitprop.
“…awards & honors &…endowed chair….” as long as you’re the right kind of academic or historian that follows & promotes the woke & DEI narrative. Agree Fiendish that these are signals to ignore such people, as w/ the mask & jab fetishists
Even if we can't be friends anymore, when you're right, you're right. ha
😂😅🤣
the exalted academics are leading us into a new dark age
“Science” is now primarily a social enterprise… with the attendant foibles/fallacies.
Caveat Emptor.
Yeah, but it got him a book contract.
I assume it’s a University Press type of book. IOW his tenure guarantees a couple hundred pages being published every few years.
Is that how that works? I did not know.
If you were to graph the likelihood of each of those 2 assessments (salt vs. agitprop) of most intellectuals’ writings, the “salt” outcome would be an asymptote, and the agitprop would be ≈100%.
Thomas Sowell wrote a book in 2010 (“Intellectuals and Society”) about the pseudo-intellectualism of intellectuals. While Sowell highlights that having a PhD in the mating habits of the giant Pacific octopus does NOT make one an expert on climate change or anything else other than horny octopi, Chris unfortunately exposes that they don’t necessarily know much about their field of purported expertise, or if they do, they prostitute it for political ends.
We saw this in spades during COVID. The jihad against the eminently qualified and outspoken critics of “accepted treatments” (McCulloch, Atlas, Bhattacharya, Kulldorff to name just a few) continues to this day.
At some point, revisionist historians will implement a “Fahrenheit 451” squad to purge materials they no longer view as “being in the mainstream.”
Yes
Awards and recognition from the globalist cabal are all indications of corruption. ALL of them. Nobel, Pulitzer, Tony-Emmy-Grammy, Kennedy Center, Phi Beta Kappa, Rhodes Scholars…..Start to recognize them as the negative indicator that they are, and things will come into clearer focus.
Obama's Nobel Peace Prize early in his presidency is one of my favorites. I still can't figure out what it's for.
Elected while being black.
Half black.
👍
No Pat it's for being elected for being a queer black married to a queer black transvestite.
I’m pretty sure that one was for being the first American president to kill an American citizen by drone attack without due process (to keep the peace).
It was to make those who bestowed it feel very virtuous for having awarded it to him, I suspect. But I don't know, I wasn't there when the Nobel Peace Prize Committee decided.
I suspect, too, that you're right.
He can't either.
The political cartoonist Nick Anderson labeled it the “Not Bush” award. Closest to the mark IMHO.
Thank you Chris, you are like libs of tiktok of long-form podcasts. You endure what many of us would consider unendurable--listening to morons tell each other how delightful their very intellectual farts smell in their echo chamber, just to bring us these glimmering jewels of colossal ignorance. You are doing God's work, my friend.
Sadly, this looks to me like the purveyors of commie academic agitprop are now getting high on their own supply. Literate people know this is nonsense, but these people seem to have bought in.
It's like some kind of Rule Zero:
If Bad Then Trump
I wonder what Cowie would say if challenged on the issue. I wonder even more what he'd have to say about how the indians treated each other during tribal wars. Because he doesn't strike me as being so blinkered he actually believe the old "noble savage"-claptrap about aboriginal peoples all being peaceful vegetarians singing Kumbaya around their emissions-free camp-fires.
Another one to steal: “emission-free campfires”. Love it
Well, maybe not truly "emission-free", but 100% organic & natural.....
The level of stupid that can be achieved when one suffers from TDS is astounding.
Honestly, Trump inspires an almost commensurate stupidity in those who think he is anointed by God to lead this country.
It is a real gift.
Not “anointed by God.”
But you have to take notice when a guy worth a few billion steps into the Cuisinart of politics because the Party keeps selecting milquetoasts devoid of any sense of realpolitik, and despite 8 years of legal Hell, signs up for yet another go. That doesn’t make his policies perfect by any means, but it sure suggests he’s not going sell his supporters out for votes.
There are different groups of people that support Trump (and for different reasons) - I was speaking to one specific one.
YES.... I find it hysterical how many Christians have given this guy an almost godlike revenance. You guys sure he's Orange and not Golden? He's being g trwared almost like the proverbial Jewish golden calf.
When your political opponents go off the deep end, at some point their emotional reactions to potential candidates on your side become informative. Trump makes Democrat crazies go absolutely nuts, and that’s worth exploring. He has no loyalty to vested interests on either side of the aisle. His policies favor the working man and the businessman. What they DON’T do is favor the growth of government. Peter Thiel said something very relevant: “The press never takes Trump seriously, but it always takes him literally. ... His voters take Trump seriously but not literally…”
Is Trump perfect? Hardly. His execution in 2017-18 was terrible and some policies were highly flawed as introduced (e.g., Muslim travel restrictions). Some took time, e.g., transferring agency senior managers to “Schedule F” making them fireable without appeal rights when they resist WH policy directives. SO much knowledge was gained in Term 1 that Term 2 can start off with a bang (not a BJ Clinton bang).
I listen to what he says and have the attitude of "let's see if and how that actually pans out. I'm not a Tirump cultist. I was never MAGA if there was a movement I did ascribe to and believed in was the OG T.E.A. Party. Until the pussy party copped it and ruined it.
Now, I observe and pay attention just enough to be aware of when the Houses of Treason tty to stick their hands in my wallet. Otherwise I'm done with the whole shit show. Leave me be. If not remember that poem of men who wished to be left alone. That's how I roll. I'll flame both sides just to stir the pot as it's amusing.
My thought is that Chris must really like us to read that crap for us ….I can’t speak for everyone, but still, we are grateful. 🙏
I often think the same thing. I hope Chris was able to find the book at a library instead of giving him money.
bsn
He was.
Oh dear !!! No !!!! Chris, if you paid for the book can we burn it at the next camping trip ? I’ve never been to a book burning 🔥
Another example of a highly lauded historian who currently sounds like an idiot every time he opens his mouth is Michael Beschloss. He says that the only reason anyone would oppose our Ukraine intervention, is because they love Putin. He also said that those members of Congress who had not applauded Zelensky when Zelensky addressed them.... should be required to explain themselves. !!!!
I must admit I had a hard time wrapping my head around this one although he's hardly alone. How do otherwise intelligent people buy so completely into the current conventional wisdom to the extent they banish all thoughts that might tell a different story?
Liberals (particularly academics) suffer under a Maoist regime in which any deviation from dogma is punished severely. Moreover, liberals see themselves as morally perfect, so anything that casts doubt on that perfection (like facts) is denied to exist. It is the reason the Left so utterly despises Christians, for whom the fallen nature of Man is a foundational belief (one that I share if for no other reason than the evidence of its truth is abundant all around us).
An oft-told tale these days.
these are some real deep thinkers!
For sure!
What did Beschloss say about Netanyahu’s speech before Congress and Kamala’s absence?
Probably nothing. Netanyahu is not the Golden Boy of the military industrial complex.
Beschloss’ assessment of anything is like a foghorn – warning all who hear it to avoid the area of his thinking.
So TDS manifests as some kind of science fiction-esque time machine. Orange Hitler is somehow able to control the past. In his truly wicked way, he forced the ever benevolent government of Andrew Jackson to ignore the rights of the noble indigenous saints. He permitted those evil settlers to steal their land. What a horrible man!
Brilliant.
bsn
At some point it gets so painful trying to follow the excruciating contortions Cowie forces his “logic” through, I sincerely believe Medicare should foot the bill for the physical therapy my intellect is going to need to fully recover.
Just take a dose of Orange Man Bad and stop trying to think about it
....or maybe try some Mango Mussolini Hatewagon syrup....
😂😂😂
🏆
😂😂😂
What seems to be left out of all these conversations is tht there has always been antagonism between the two parties. Yes, the 'two parties have morphed, but there have always been two parties, and they have always been antagonistic. So, when we talk about what the federal government did or didn't do, we need to examine which party was behind it, and not presume there was universal support. Because there never has been universal support for anything. We are led to believe that the two parties could always work things out agreeably, until Trump came along. That is a flat out lie.
It continues to amaze me that nobody mentions that Jackson was a founder of the Democratic party. (Yes, the name changed twice, but it was still the party that we today call the democratic party.) That would be the same democratic party that supported secession from the Union rather put up with the first Republican president, Abraham Lincoln. So, why do people refer to nineteenth century federal government as if it was of one mind? It never was. But the democratic party HAS always been the party of institutional racism. Slavery, Jim Crow, the KKK, segregation, inner city black ghettos are ALL creations of the democratic party. Any history teacher who has told you different is a democrat.
Institutional racism: Slavery, Jim Crow, the KKK, segregation, "integration," affirmative action/equal opportunity, DEI, ...
Careful! The memory-holers of Oceania will be along to expunge your Wrongthink.
This is how a country commits suicide.
It’s like Fentanyl-laced history.
I agree with your thinking on Cowie but he's like all leftists, who have this romantic view of the stone age pagans who lived in this hemisphere prior to the white Christians. I'm from South Texas. The Karanchua tribes along the coast were cannibals for centuries, the Aztecs in Mexico were cannibals, practiced human sacrifice and slavery on a massive scale for centuries, and Kiowas and Comanches made war and slaughtered for centuries all over most of what is Texas, Oklahoma, New Mexico, and Northern Mexico all the other Indian tribes, plus any whites who got in the way. This was the case all over both hemispheres. If one tribe didn't wipe out another tribe, they "resettled" them by driving them out of their territory. So, all the writing about this or that government or private policy about Indian removal is so much waste of paper, time, and ink.
Danny Huckabee
What isn't owned (property rights, for example) cannot be stolen.
Yes, the West botched the inclusion of *property-less* indigent human communities in its inevitable expansionary period.
We are far, far from that period today, and the pependulum has swung way too far towards that which never existed in the first place, is anathema to Western philosophy, and which might be the ultimate extinction of the West:
Collective rights.
Jackson adopted an Indian child who, if I remember rightly, was orphaned by the death of his parents, during one of Jackson's campaigns against the Creek.
Jackson was one of the most complicated and difficult figures in American history. Did many things that seem contradictory or inconsistent, in fascinating ways.
I don’t think it’s any different than the Indians taking the children of white settlers they killed. It’s a form of genocide (esp., as we’ve redefined the word in the 21stC). Deliberately raising them in a rival culture could be both an act of general aggression and specific compassion. How many hunters have made pets of their game’s offspring?
Chris, I don’t think Jackson is anywhere close to a fair representation of the federal gov’t over its long and complicated history with the Indians. I won’t argue that it was a benevolent force but I believe from all of my reading that there was land grabbing at every level: lots of individual settlers that disregarded treaties and placed massive pressure on tge state & federal gov’ts, who also had their own interests. Ultimately, everyone was involved and the results bear out that simple obvious fact.
I agree that there was "land grabbing at every level," but the POTUS who wanted the Indian Removal Act and promised to implement it can't be minimized in the account of the result.
I’m sorry, but nuance is no longer an approved aspect of thinking.