The author of SB 14, Shannon Grove, is negotiating with Assembly leaders in an effort to get SB 14 to the floor for a vote without a committee referral. If you're interested and you're on Twitter, follow this KCRA reporter:
Jul 12, 2023·edited Jul 12, 2023Liked by Chris Bray
I've read a fair amount of the history and theory of law. Often laws are created not just to criminalize and punish an offense against the public good but to avoid the chaos that may ensue if members of the community take it upon themselves to punish the offense.
If I were a criminal I'd be uneasy with the march of increased leniency and the reduction in police budgets. Eventually members of the community will take direct action against certain crimes and they will very likely be unconstrained by things like the presumption of innocence or the prohibition of cruel and unusual punishment.
Some members of the public will eventually just force safety on their streets at the cost of a few thieve's hands and rapists' genitals. That approach preceded the modern machinery of law and will reemerge in the absence of its reasonable administration.
“The same communities that have the highest rates of human trafficking are the same communities that have the highest unemployment rates, the highest rent burdens, the lowest amount of small businesses owned, the highest economic burdens in our state. But instead of investing the resources to take away the economic incentives and these kind of illicit markets, we invest all of these resources in our fifteen-billion-dollar-plus prison infrastructure.”
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I'm sure the state is spending millions or billions on these exact programs, but the "help" always goes to the politically connected and never manages to move the needle on the ground.
Nobody actually cares about disproportionately bad outcomes of policies for black people. Nobody. Everybody knew who would be hurt most by closing public schools (people other than rich white people who could homeschool their kids or put them in not-closed private schools), and everybody marched ahead and did it anyway. The race thing is completely a canard. It's just something people pull out to justify their BS. I'm sure when we're all paying for uterus transplants for men, the argument will be that white men are disproportionately able to afford them, so the only fair and right thing to do from a racial justice perspective is to have the taxpayer fund them. It's ludicrous. People who actually care about black people and poor people work at places like Legal Aid. I don't think we're even supposed to believe the "harsh penalties for child rapists is racist" line; we just know that it's an argument-stopper. It's like pulling a snowglobe out of your pocket during a chess match and saying it can move as far as it wants in any direction and can stop on multiple squares per move, killing half the opponents' pieces. Dude, it's the glitter snowglobe! You can't argue with that!
I'm not an Andrew Tate fan, but I can't help but notice that the same folks who are rejoicing over his imprisonment and prosecution for trafficking are many of the same folks who oppose harsher criminal penalties for child sex trafficking (like this proposed legislation in California), who are up in arms about Sound of Freedom being a "Q-Anon" conspiracy theorist film, who celebrate "kid-friendly drag shows" and "drag queen story hour" for preschoolers, etc. Almost like they don't really care about human trafficking or sex crimes against the vulnerable, but are just happy to see the laws against such crimes used only as a pretext to punish folks (like Tate) for being critical of the Globohomo American Empire. (The folks most outraged by Tate certainly don't seem to mind that we still haven't seen Jeffrey Epstein's client list, for example.)
On a different note, in a perfect world, these child traffickers would be drawn and quartered or boiled in oil or some other such "cruel and unusual punishment." The fact that California's state legislators are so concerned for the well-being of the traffickers is appalling. In a perfect world, those legislators would be drawn and quartered or boiled in oil, right alongside the traffickers they are trying to protect.
Kalifornistan has broken free from the restraints of gravity and has decided on a pyrrhic death as it hurdles itself towards hell.
My home state, once the golden state of opportunity, beautiful weather, boundless vistas across incredibly spectacular geography, blessed with an abundance of natural resources, has proven that given a little time any oasis can be turned into a septic pool.
The marxiccists have destroyed their government, 90% of their state and created an ever dependent class of serfs. After DC, silicon valley would be the priority target for an asteroid strike.
"The same communities that have the highest rates of human trafficking are the same communities that have the highest unemployment rates, the highest rent burdens, the lowest amount of small businesses owned, the highest economic burdens in our state."
Do you think it ever occurred to him that perhaps the same cultural values might result in high unemployment AND low business ownership AND high human trafficking rates? hmm..
"But instead of investing the resources to take away the economic incentives and these kind of illicit markets, we invest all of these resources in our fifteen-billion-dollar-plus prison infrastructure.” Tremendously cruel of society to victimize adults by making them have to sell children for sex, you see."
This is the argument that will make me go from calm to enraged in record time. You are assuming, if you make this argument, that poor people are incapable of not committing heinous crimes for money. We're not talking stealing loaves of bread here or even holding up convenience stores for a little cash. We're talking *selling children*. How badly do you think of poor minorities that your thesis is they have no money so their default is to sell children and we can't make that off limits or we're RaCiSt?
Great reporting on this. Thank you for your careful research. I wonder where Nicholas Kristof (liberal/leftist NYT columnist) is on this. He has inveighed against human trafficking for years.
Most people believe the Bible has no relevance but I tend to think it is because they have no idea what’s in there. Two thousand years ago Isaiah wrote “woe unto those who call evil good and good evil.” The comparison of this truth to the defeat of the trafficking punishment law by delusional opportunists could not be more clear. I am disgusted.
The author of SB 14, Shannon Grove, is negotiating with Assembly leaders in an effort to get SB 14 to the floor for a vote without a committee referral. If you're interested and you're on Twitter, follow this KCRA reporter:
https://twitter.com/ZavalaA
She's been breaking all of the news on this bill.
I've read a fair amount of the history and theory of law. Often laws are created not just to criminalize and punish an offense against the public good but to avoid the chaos that may ensue if members of the community take it upon themselves to punish the offense.
If I were a criminal I'd be uneasy with the march of increased leniency and the reduction in police budgets. Eventually members of the community will take direct action against certain crimes and they will very likely be unconstrained by things like the presumption of innocence or the prohibition of cruel and unusual punishment.
Some members of the public will eventually just force safety on their streets at the cost of a few thieve's hands and rapists' genitals. That approach preceded the modern machinery of law and will reemerge in the absence of its reasonable administration.
“The same communities that have the highest rates of human trafficking are the same communities that have the highest unemployment rates, the highest rent burdens, the lowest amount of small businesses owned, the highest economic burdens in our state. But instead of investing the resources to take away the economic incentives and these kind of illicit markets, we invest all of these resources in our fifteen-billion-dollar-plus prison infrastructure.”
------------
I'm sure the state is spending millions or billions on these exact programs, but the "help" always goes to the politically connected and never manages to move the needle on the ground.
Nobody actually cares about disproportionately bad outcomes of policies for black people. Nobody. Everybody knew who would be hurt most by closing public schools (people other than rich white people who could homeschool their kids or put them in not-closed private schools), and everybody marched ahead and did it anyway. The race thing is completely a canard. It's just something people pull out to justify their BS. I'm sure when we're all paying for uterus transplants for men, the argument will be that white men are disproportionately able to afford them, so the only fair and right thing to do from a racial justice perspective is to have the taxpayer fund them. It's ludicrous. People who actually care about black people and poor people work at places like Legal Aid. I don't think we're even supposed to believe the "harsh penalties for child rapists is racist" line; we just know that it's an argument-stopper. It's like pulling a snowglobe out of your pocket during a chess match and saying it can move as far as it wants in any direction and can stop on multiple squares per move, killing half the opponents' pieces. Dude, it's the glitter snowglobe! You can't argue with that!
I'm not an Andrew Tate fan, but I can't help but notice that the same folks who are rejoicing over his imprisonment and prosecution for trafficking are many of the same folks who oppose harsher criminal penalties for child sex trafficking (like this proposed legislation in California), who are up in arms about Sound of Freedom being a "Q-Anon" conspiracy theorist film, who celebrate "kid-friendly drag shows" and "drag queen story hour" for preschoolers, etc. Almost like they don't really care about human trafficking or sex crimes against the vulnerable, but are just happy to see the laws against such crimes used only as a pretext to punish folks (like Tate) for being critical of the Globohomo American Empire. (The folks most outraged by Tate certainly don't seem to mind that we still haven't seen Jeffrey Epstein's client list, for example.)
On a different note, in a perfect world, these child traffickers would be drawn and quartered or boiled in oil or some other such "cruel and unusual punishment." The fact that California's state legislators are so concerned for the well-being of the traffickers is appalling. In a perfect world, those legislators would be drawn and quartered or boiled in oil, right alongside the traffickers they are trying to protect.
Kalifornistan has broken free from the restraints of gravity and has decided on a pyrrhic death as it hurdles itself towards hell.
My home state, once the golden state of opportunity, beautiful weather, boundless vistas across incredibly spectacular geography, blessed with an abundance of natural resources, has proven that given a little time any oasis can be turned into a septic pool.
The marxiccists have destroyed their government, 90% of their state and created an ever dependent class of serfs. After DC, silicon valley would be the priority target for an asteroid strike.
Protecting the victimizer, not the victim. It is the inversion of our world.
Time to hold on tight to our Savior & not let go.
Thanks for the article. Always praying for you guys 🙏
"The same communities that have the highest rates of human trafficking are the same communities that have the highest unemployment rates, the highest rent burdens, the lowest amount of small businesses owned, the highest economic burdens in our state."
Do you think it ever occurred to him that perhaps the same cultural values might result in high unemployment AND low business ownership AND high human trafficking rates? hmm..
"But instead of investing the resources to take away the economic incentives and these kind of illicit markets, we invest all of these resources in our fifteen-billion-dollar-plus prison infrastructure.” Tremendously cruel of society to victimize adults by making them have to sell children for sex, you see."
This is the argument that will make me go from calm to enraged in record time. You are assuming, if you make this argument, that poor people are incapable of not committing heinous crimes for money. We're not talking stealing loaves of bread here or even holding up convenience stores for a little cash. We're talking *selling children*. How badly do you think of poor minorities that your thesis is they have no money so their default is to sell children and we can't make that off limits or we're RaCiSt?
I'm just outraged that not a single person at the meeting was wearing a mask. Don't they know we are in a pandemic!!!
Great reporting on this. Thank you for your careful research. I wonder where Nicholas Kristof (liberal/leftist NYT columnist) is on this. He has inveighed against human trafficking for years.
Disgusting people doing despicable things. You reap what you sow.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=du_01sqzsck
It’s just a matter of time until adults in California will be free to have sex with minors, but face jail time for misgendering one.
Most people believe the Bible has no relevance but I tend to think it is because they have no idea what’s in there. Two thousand years ago Isaiah wrote “woe unto those who call evil good and good evil.” The comparison of this truth to the defeat of the trafficking punishment law by delusional opportunists could not be more clear. I am disgusted.
Thanks Chris.
Id rather eat broken glass than listen to those slime balls. But I get the drift.
And it's nauseating.