California Senator Scott Wiener, explaining the death of his SB 866 in the state legislature: “There were some who were just philosophically opposed to it and others who were concerned about the politics and some who had a heartfelt opposition to the bill,” he said. “But there was also really intense, badgering harassment of the legislators.”
It is harassment to express opposition democratically elected representatives who support legislation favored by enlightened progressives. It is democracy to harass Supreme Court judges who don’t vote the way progressives want them to vote.
Where did people like Wiener get the idea that they're not supposed to hear the vigorous opposition of their constituents to this or that proposed legislation? Have they read the Constitution? Apparently not. They seem to think they're our rulers, not our reps.
My goal for the rest of the day is "touch dirt," and to not stare at a computer screen. Hope to mostly be offline, so I'm not ignoring comments or emails, but I'll be back tomorrow.
To say something is politicized means that it is political. For something to be political means that it is related to the government (local, state, or federal), its policies, or its conduct. In a free and democratic society we are free to debate about those things. So, yes, it is politicized because it involves the politics of the government, its policies and its conduct. If you can't take the political heat then get your ass out of the political kitchen.
The expression "violent opposition" makes me grit my teeth. We used to use accurate words to describe situations in which people had strong disagreements. "Vociferous opposition" or "vehement disagreement"--something like that. Now, every strong disagreement is labeled as "violent." To me, "violence" includes the use or imminent threat of force.
The other thing is that when the government is trying to take parents' and families' rights away from them, actual harassment is the only recourse of the people, short of (very expensive) lawsuits. Well, it's the only non-violent recourse.
If this is harassment, we need more of it—especially once they try to float more mandates with this new-and-improved! (and already outdated) Omicron vaccine that has been tested on, like, 8 mice in a basement lab somewhere (shut up, anti-vaxxers, with your unreasonable demands for human subjects testing and safety data!) and, of course, has as its prerequisite the full complement of boosters of the original, utterly ineffective “vaccine.” Of course it does. Never can have too many of these shots…
There are probably good reasons why 15-year olds cannot drink alcohol, consent to have sex with adults, vote, join the armed services, sign contracts, get a tattoo, drive, or purchase a firearm, but I can't think of any.
Scott Wiener exemplifies all that is hateful and destructive in California government. He is a disgrace to our state. His dishonesty and corruption is legend and legion.
We, the citizens of California, did not elect him; a small cohort of activists and agitators saw to that. Never forget that this is the man who thinks it's little more than a minor infraction to deliberately and knowingly infect others with a deadly disease for which there is no cure.
It's people like Wiener that make California on object of contempt, worldwide. The voters of California can offer no defense, only an apology. If there was ever a case for reparations, it would be made in response to the present-day murderous harm done by Wiener and his cabal of like-minded would-be despots.
I don’t suppose a 15 year old kid could be unreasonably influenced by someone like a teacher or tutor or coach to do something not in the kid’s long term interest, huh? For example, even if the vax is the right thing to do (I’m being generous here) some kids are on immunosuppressive drugs for some other condition. They don’t have the maturity to discuss the risks or procedure (e.g., forego the drug for a period of time) with the person trying to influence him to make a good decision. These people trying to push this crap are truly sick!
The decency in a parent or a grandparent who does not allow their children to make huge life altering decisions alone gets activated in various firm, stern, animated ways when someone encourages kids to make such decisions. So someone making that LEGAL? Yes, that will activate the decency, and the legislator will hear it, it’s his job. Wiener can’t identify decency because he knows NOTHING about a shred of it, so that’s “toxic”. Right.
People like this actually demonstrate sayings like “truth is hate to people who hate truth” and “his life is his sentence” and “darkness destroys itself”. This is exactly the tone of our city council. You’re either compliant or “toxic”. This is a sickening type of person, and God is large and in charge of California no matter how ugly it gets.
Wiener is one of the most repulsive ghouls in our state legislature. He was one of the legislators responsible for reducing from a felony to a misdemeanor those who knowingly spread HIV to others. He has authored and pushed so many other disgusting bills that it's disgraceful to anyone possessing even a tiny bit of moral compass
From the article: "I suspect there is a more legitimate caucus who are concerned about this for families that is not under the spell of anti-vaxxers"
It's Salem all over again, folks. Anti-vaxxers are witches. They must be burned.
It is harassment to express opposition democratically elected representatives who support legislation favored by enlightened progressives. It is democracy to harass Supreme Court judges who don’t vote the way progressives want them to vote.
These people are fearful cowards, plain and simple. They won’t look you in the eye or even debate. They’ll use their power to shut you out.
Where did people like Wiener get the idea that they're not supposed to hear the vigorous opposition of their constituents to this or that proposed legislation? Have they read the Constitution? Apparently not. They seem to think they're our rulers, not our reps.
My goal for the rest of the day is "touch dirt," and to not stare at a computer screen. Hope to mostly be offline, so I'm not ignoring comments or emails, but I'll be back tomorrow.
To say something is politicized means that it is political. For something to be political means that it is related to the government (local, state, or federal), its policies, or its conduct. In a free and democratic society we are free to debate about those things. So, yes, it is politicized because it involves the politics of the government, its policies and its conduct. If you can't take the political heat then get your ass out of the political kitchen.
The expression "violent opposition" makes me grit my teeth. We used to use accurate words to describe situations in which people had strong disagreements. "Vociferous opposition" or "vehement disagreement"--something like that. Now, every strong disagreement is labeled as "violent." To me, "violence" includes the use or imminent threat of force.
The other thing is that when the government is trying to take parents' and families' rights away from them, actual harassment is the only recourse of the people, short of (very expensive) lawsuits. Well, it's the only non-violent recourse.
If this is harassment, we need more of it—especially once they try to float more mandates with this new-and-improved! (and already outdated) Omicron vaccine that has been tested on, like, 8 mice in a basement lab somewhere (shut up, anti-vaxxers, with your unreasonable demands for human subjects testing and safety data!) and, of course, has as its prerequisite the full complement of boosters of the original, utterly ineffective “vaccine.” Of course it does. Never can have too many of these shots…
With all due sincerity: Fuck these people.
There are probably good reasons why 15-year olds cannot drink alcohol, consent to have sex with adults, vote, join the armed services, sign contracts, get a tattoo, drive, or purchase a firearm, but I can't think of any.
Scott Wiener exemplifies all that is hateful and destructive in California government. He is a disgrace to our state. His dishonesty and corruption is legend and legion.
We, the citizens of California, did not elect him; a small cohort of activists and agitators saw to that. Never forget that this is the man who thinks it's little more than a minor infraction to deliberately and knowingly infect others with a deadly disease for which there is no cure.
It's people like Wiener that make California on object of contempt, worldwide. The voters of California can offer no defense, only an apology. If there was ever a case for reparations, it would be made in response to the present-day murderous harm done by Wiener and his cabal of like-minded would-be despots.
"You’re hurting his feelings"
Poor baby!
I'm sorry I'm so strident, everyone.
Wait. No, I'm not.
We’ll never surrender our Freedom of Speech nor any of our other rights.
Progressive Nazism won’t stop us, either.
I don’t suppose a 15 year old kid could be unreasonably influenced by someone like a teacher or tutor or coach to do something not in the kid’s long term interest, huh? For example, even if the vax is the right thing to do (I’m being generous here) some kids are on immunosuppressive drugs for some other condition. They don’t have the maturity to discuss the risks or procedure (e.g., forego the drug for a period of time) with the person trying to influence him to make a good decision. These people trying to push this crap are truly sick!
The decency in a parent or a grandparent who does not allow their children to make huge life altering decisions alone gets activated in various firm, stern, animated ways when someone encourages kids to make such decisions. So someone making that LEGAL? Yes, that will activate the decency, and the legislator will hear it, it’s his job. Wiener can’t identify decency because he knows NOTHING about a shred of it, so that’s “toxic”. Right.
People like this actually demonstrate sayings like “truth is hate to people who hate truth” and “his life is his sentence” and “darkness destroys itself”. This is exactly the tone of our city council. You’re either compliant or “toxic”. This is a sickening type of person, and God is large and in charge of California no matter how ugly it gets.
Wiener is one of the most repulsive ghouls in our state legislature. He was one of the legislators responsible for reducing from a felony to a misdemeanor those who knowingly spread HIV to others. He has authored and pushed so many other disgusting bills that it's disgraceful to anyone possessing even a tiny bit of moral compass