I want proof that actual death threats occurred. I am utterly tired of screeching this as a cassus belli. If it actually occurred, what you are describing is an actual crime- criminal menace or conspiracy to commit murder- and should be investigated and prosecuted accordingly.
I suspect, however, that it is not- and virtually never is, because we never learn the specifics.
Saying "I hate you" or "I hope you die" is not a death threat. The left has been cheering for the death, disfigurement, and misfortune of disliked public figures for years without prosecution. I joined them not long ago in shedding this silly social taboo, and enjoy wishing death on my enemies immensely. But I am not culpable for a damned thing, and everyone knows it.
I suspect it was something more along the lines of a parent cautioning the legislature that should they pass this, and a child is harmed or killed by a vaccine that they accepted without the parent's knowledge, the responsibility would lay at the feet of those voting in the affirmative, and that they would be held to account. It is good news that the bill has been pulled.
Nice to see they're pulling out the rhetorical technique of sliming, which perhaps didn't originate during the 2016 campaign, but was perfected then. Millions of people voted for Trump; a few dozen marched in a white supremacist parade with tiki torches; therefore, Trump voters are all white supremacists. A majority of parents don't want their kids getting experimental medical products without their consent; one or two wrote strongly worded letters that can be dramatized as "death threats" (which is already pretty unrealistic, when you think about what it would take to put oneself in a position to take out a California legislator); therefore, all parents who don't want their kids to get experimental medical products behind their backs are death-threateners.
And I agree with Guttermouth--saying "I hope you die" is not a death threat. Members of my immediate family have shouted far worse at NFL refs.
The legislators who gave up on this effort are telling us they're not brave enough to "stand up for science"
"We believe in science! In the name of goodness and truth, we will defend the vulnerable of this society! But, on second thought, if the forces of evil talk to us in an angry voice, we will back down and run."
Even a voter who agreed with this terrible bill would be forced to conclude that the legislators who wrote it aren't worth shit.
ha! yeah. that makes a lot of sense. if there was a death threat, it was probably one guy hired by Pfizer who called someone's voicemail, or something. but whoever it was, it looks like these brave legislators have let the anti-vaxx terrorists win.
of course, as you suggest, a much more likely explanation is that voters do not like SB866 and these legislators finally got the message despite all the Pfizer cash flowing into their campaigns.
The current definition of "death threat", as authorized (authored?) by the woke institute for language revision, is "you may be about to disagree with me - which is equivalent to threatening me with physical violence - an obvious threat to kill me."
The PR blitz is intended to support their larger objective to silence all future dissent as “violence.” I would expect them to trot this out in support of their bill limiting speech at public meetings. Everyone knows what happens to vampires when they are exposed to the light of day. Their survival is at stake. Keep on shining folks!!! Thank you Mr. Bray for being part of the light!
When the CA legislature shut down for a few months in 2020, I was thrilled because it meant they had less time to pass bad laws. Our state would be better off with NO government than with what we have now.
It's gotten overripe, all the mayors and FBI and attorneys general claiming trauma. I doubt they sincerely believe it a dignified or even effective excuse (because they pivot to spewing hateful, Bosnian-war-crime trash out of the other side of their mouths immediately once the synchronized journalisming team changes the subject for them). However, it does have the virtue of being there, for the moment-- they know they can use this, and that it will be printed.
I recall the media mockery of Reagan-era politician cliches; "I see death threats" is just the new "Mistakes were made"
Also once again we’re back to 19th Century politics: Slavery.
They think it Cruel they do not have Title to the Children.
See 13th Amendment; it also bans indentured servitude.
And compulsory education has most assuredly become indentured servitude.
You parents may want to take a hard cold look at the matter and make some real decisions, it can be argued and indeed seems the actual policy that possession is 9/10ths the Law. You sign over your kids to the State , what exactly are your rights then?
I want proof that actual death threats occurred. I am utterly tired of screeching this as a cassus belli. If it actually occurred, what you are describing is an actual crime- criminal menace or conspiracy to commit murder- and should be investigated and prosecuted accordingly.
I suspect, however, that it is not- and virtually never is, because we never learn the specifics.
Saying "I hate you" or "I hope you die" is not a death threat. The left has been cheering for the death, disfigurement, and misfortune of disliked public figures for years without prosecution. I joined them not long ago in shedding this silly social taboo, and enjoy wishing death on my enemies immensely. But I am not culpable for a damned thing, and everyone knows it.
A hundred "likes" if I could. I've been so tired of this ever since GamerGate. Screenshots or you're lying. And "Die in a fire" doesn't count.
You nailed it. They can't lose without claiming to be the victim.
I suspect it was something more along the lines of a parent cautioning the legislature that should they pass this, and a child is harmed or killed by a vaccine that they accepted without the parent's knowledge, the responsibility would lay at the feet of those voting in the affirmative, and that they would be held to account. It is good news that the bill has been pulled.
It's fantastic news.
WE DID IT!!! 🙌
"Don’t ever give an inch to people who think you’re a monster for disagreeing with them".
Also
"Don’t ever give a shit about people who think you’re a monster for disagreeing with them"
I loved that old quote;
"Some motherfucker hates you for no reason?
Then give that motherfucker a reason".
Scott Weiner is an ugly piece of work
Not a 10 here, not a 10 abroad.
Nice to see they're pulling out the rhetorical technique of sliming, which perhaps didn't originate during the 2016 campaign, but was perfected then. Millions of people voted for Trump; a few dozen marched in a white supremacist parade with tiki torches; therefore, Trump voters are all white supremacists. A majority of parents don't want their kids getting experimental medical products without their consent; one or two wrote strongly worded letters that can be dramatized as "death threats" (which is already pretty unrealistic, when you think about what it would take to put oneself in a position to take out a California legislator); therefore, all parents who don't want their kids to get experimental medical products behind their backs are death-threateners.
And I agree with Guttermouth--saying "I hope you die" is not a death threat. Members of my immediate family have shouted far worse at NFL refs.
The legislators who gave up on this effort are telling us they're not brave enough to "stand up for science"
"We believe in science! In the name of goodness and truth, we will defend the vulnerable of this society! But, on second thought, if the forces of evil talk to us in an angry voice, we will back down and run."
Even a voter who agreed with this terrible bill would be forced to conclude that the legislators who wrote it aren't worth shit.
Almost like there were no actual credible threats whatsoever.
The only threat was the threat of not being re-elected or of losing funding.
ha! yeah. that makes a lot of sense. if there was a death threat, it was probably one guy hired by Pfizer who called someone's voicemail, or something. but whoever it was, it looks like these brave legislators have let the anti-vaxx terrorists win.
of course, as you suggest, a much more likely explanation is that voters do not like SB866 and these legislators finally got the message despite all the Pfizer cash flowing into their campaigns.
The current definition of "death threat", as authorized (authored?) by the woke institute for language revision, is "you may be about to disagree with me - which is equivalent to threatening me with physical violence - an obvious threat to kill me."
Beautiful take.
The PR blitz is intended to support their larger objective to silence all future dissent as “violence.” I would expect them to trot this out in support of their bill limiting speech at public meetings. Everyone knows what happens to vampires when they are exposed to the light of day. Their survival is at stake. Keep on shining folks!!! Thank you Mr. Bray for being part of the light!
When the CA legislature shut down for a few months in 2020, I was thrilled because it meant they had less time to pass bad laws. Our state would be better off with NO government than with what we have now.
Bullies always play victim when they get their comeuppance.
It's gotten overripe, all the mayors and FBI and attorneys general claiming trauma. I doubt they sincerely believe it a dignified or even effective excuse (because they pivot to spewing hateful, Bosnian-war-crime trash out of the other side of their mouths immediately once the synchronized journalisming team changes the subject for them). However, it does have the virtue of being there, for the moment-- they know they can use this, and that it will be printed.
I recall the media mockery of Reagan-era politician cliches; "I see death threats" is just the new "Mistakes were made"
They'll be back. The undead never rest.
Thank you for this FANTASTIC news. We must not ever let our guard down on them trying to take control of our children.
They always project, no?
Death threats to children is what they were cooking up in their cauldron.
The most likely "death threat" was the threat of murdering the chances of re-election.
If that's being a monster, then call me a monster!
Me too - no living children, either. Must make me an "ultra-monster." HAHAHAHA
They are the Monsters.
Also once again we’re back to 19th Century politics: Slavery.
They think it Cruel they do not have Title to the Children.
See 13th Amendment; it also bans indentured servitude.
And compulsory education has most assuredly become indentured servitude.
You parents may want to take a hard cold look at the matter and make some real decisions, it can be argued and indeed seems the actual policy that possession is 9/10ths the Law. You sign over your kids to the State , what exactly are your rights then?
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