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JDHoliday's avatar

Back in the 80’s this boy wore finger nail polish to school. We were told not to judge. We were told to be accenting and understanding. Fair enough. Easy enough. Do unto others and what not.

I’d call it acceptance affirming care.

I think it’s much better than gender affirming care and cutting off some kids body parts.

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Chris Bray's avatar

Same, and same. No one cared. It's the insistent, ubiquitous narcissistic performativity that drives people up the wall.

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Korpijarvi's avatar

Yes...but at the same time, wasn't it in the '80s that boys started being drugged for not having the ability to sit down, shut up, fold hands, and act like a girl?

Kids have been mutilated for adult convenience most of my life. It's why I went into the Ed Biz originally...and soon got out. And that was a LONG time ago.

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TurquoiseThyme's avatar

My grandmother was an excellent kindergarten teacher, she was in absolute contempt of teachers that couldn’t handle boys natural energy.

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Andy's avatar

My granny was also a teacher. She had a much easier time with her grandsons than her granddaugthers.

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Valerie's avatar

My brother was put on Ritalin in the mid-70s. And IMHO it ruined his life.

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Tim's avatar

Our older son was close to 5’9” by the time he was 12 and in grade six (Canada). We got the impression that a few of his female teachers that year were likely intimidated by a grade six boy who could interact with them at the same eye level. Thankfully none ever suggested drugging him. We would not have done so anyway.

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K2's avatar

^This!^

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Diane N's avatar

The only advantage of gender affirming surgery on minors is to get to boys before puberty hits so they make prettier women afterwards. I heard that from someone in a group called gays against groomers. So these boys are being exploited in ways i don't want to think about, then overzealous leftists looking for a cause cheer it on. The resulting women with their long legs and slim hips contribute to a beauty ideal that the average girl can never achieve thus perpetuating the cycle of anorexia, bulemia, etc.

So those of us who are outliers to group think must keep speaking up and those of you who are educators must encourage that. Good teachers can never be replaced by AI learning

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Ellen's avatar

Yep ... "gender affirming care" is three words of gaslighting .. it's not about gender, it's about physical sex organs / hormones ... it's the opposite of affirming, and it's certainly not care ...

Real affirmation is acceptance of gender nonconformity, instead of telling kids they're born on the wrong body ... https://benappel.substack.com/

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Mitch's avatar

"Sex denying mutilation" would be a better descriptor, but for some reason didn't catch on with the focus groups.

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Shelagh Young's avatar

I refer to it as child castration, which hasn't gained traction either.

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Mitch's avatar

It's a fine description, with a long history. Not sure why we always need to find new words to describe bad things.

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Shelagh Young's avatar

Eunuchs have a long history in service to the aristocracies. Sort of like Dylan Mulvaney hangin' with Biden, I guess...

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Mitch's avatar

yes, it's the ultimate signal of power differential

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Amusings's avatar

Spot on!!!

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dave's avatar

It's eugenics and the ability to be God

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Maenad's avatar

@JD, you’re so right. I caught a screening of Xanadu, the 1980 musical with Olivia Newton John, and was struck, again, by how all manner of gender expression was not a concern of anyone but a handful of fundamentalist bible-thumpers. No one else cared a fig how anyone presented themselves. This current gender hysteria is manufactured to further push social rupture. If we fight with each other, GloboCap can continue their rampage unimpeded.

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nymusicdaily's avatar

gender hysteria is cover for habituating the population to transhumanism. if it's ok to mutilate poor hysterical vax-damaged kids with brains full of so much aluminum they can't get away from their comfort screens, it's ok to stick a chip in everybody

or a vax containing a self-assembling one

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c Anderson's avatar

“Bible thumper” here, and even during biblical times, eunuchs were castrated like we do with livestock these days, to be more reasonable, and trustworthy in their jobs serving their masters. No one cared to stop it. It is the mutilation of children when children have no choice because they don’t understand that they will be living their lives taking pharmaceutical (experimental) drugs that impact their thoughts and emotions. It is thumpers like me who understand how roid rage is a real thing and can kill. It isn’t just outside physical change, but the mental side effects of pharmaceuticals colliding with the divine brain of an individual created by God.

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Flippin’ Jersey's avatar

It’s the ubiquitousness of Munchausen by proxy among the AWFLs in America. Just look at the number of celebrities who have trans kids. Even though they are famous, they still can’t get enough attention and accolades to satisfy their cravings. Now think of how a not famous AWFL desires attention and you begin to understand.

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Maria's avatar

Back in the seventies when I was in high school, kids would have gun racks, with guns, in the back window of their pick-up trucks. No one got shot or even thought to bring the guns into school.

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GadflyBytes's avatar

It’s almost comical listening to tv talking heads gush about how brave TIMs or TIWs are for dressing in drag. David Bowie and Annie Lennox, among others, bent the gender norms, without claiming to be the opposite sex, and frankly, with far more style than the clown face being lauded on shows like Drag Race.

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PhDBiologistMom's avatar

GenX here and yeah, I thought we had it figured out.

In the ‘70s, “Free to Be — You and Me” taught us that William could have a doll without turning into Lia. (And that you could observe — not “assign”! — the sex of a baby by taking off the diaper.)

In the ‘80s, “My So-Called Life” showed that Rickie could wear makeup without cutting off any parts. (Though he did hang out in the girls’ bathroom… hmm.. but he was clearly gay, not AGP.)

And now? How is it that my fellow GenXers are so enthusiastically transing their GenZ kids? Sad.

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AnCu's avatar

Keep your perverted sexual fantasies to yourself, freak.

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mileytheduchess's avatar

"Migroids" - I like that!

I don't get out much, just the grocery store or appointments with Old Mama, sometimes a few words with a neighbor borrowing farm equipment. But if I don't bring up politics, they don't bring it up. I like that there are real things to talk about. "Gotta get that seed out, rain's s'posed to come Thursday."

Been spending too much time on X, and you really do get sucked into the world of breathless lefties (either with rage or tears). Since I don't live in a city, I don't run into people like that except on X.

And doesn't that make me blessed!

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Valoree Dowell's avatar

Yes. Good for you. It’s called living and you’re doing a fine job. Thank you!

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Paul Dzielinski's avatar

In the not too distant future, we will look back at this era of "gender-affirming care" the same way we now find the performing of lobotomies on mental patients abhorrent.

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The Man Who Shouldn't Be King's avatar

In medieval Europe, there were "dancing plagues" -- huge numbers of people would just start dancing in the middle of the street until they dropped from exhaustion. Some died. There was no physical cause at all, not that anyone's ever found, at least. It was just mass hysteria. Transgenderism is the dancing plague of our time.

A very small number of people do have legitimate gender dysphoria, but why on Earth would a doctor treat that by sexually mutilating them? Do we treat people who think they're Napoleon by removing their shins? They need psychiatric care, not surgery.

The problem is that America's elite is all-in on the other side of this question for cultural/status reasons, to the point that they can't even consider any actual arguments. Reality always reasserts itself eventually, but "eventually" can be a very long time.

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Leonard's avatar

Like the thalidomide kids i wrnt to school with, eventually we will find out thst even the legit gender dysphoria was caused by pharmaceuticals. But in 1969 you weren’t allowed to say thalidomide in polite company- that wasnt culturally acceptable until the 1990’s.

And those even older than me remember that 4 out of 5 doctors smoke Camels.

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old coyote's avatar

"dancing plagues" - often referenced as St. Vitus' Dance- have been fairly explained by a fungal rot (ergot) in the rye harvest, which was discovered by a Swiss Researcher to be the precursor of LSD (which he invented). The physical explanation is real in that instance, but Erich Fromm did a better job of explaining mass hysteria movements such as those tied to cultural / societal changes - especially since the beginning of the industrial/ technological era. Perhaps Ted K was right: our species cannot cope with the 'interconnnection' of all humanity when we evolved to deal with groups no larger than a hundred or so. To the 'elites' (lol) all the masses outside their group are nothing but "dirt people" as has been so eloquently said.

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The Man Who Shouldn't Be King's avatar

The ergot explanation makes no sense to me, because ergot poisoning, like the LSD synthesized from it, doesn't last longer than six to eight hours, and there are well-attested records of dancing-plague sufferers dancing for days at a time. Also, medieval people were well aware of the dangers of ergot.

Fromm's diagnosis of modern society being to blame for things like "war hysteria" always struck me as a classic leftist failure to recognize human nature. War hysteria has been with us forever. Bit hard to blame industrialization for the Zulus, the Aztecs, or the Mongols. Even our cousins the chimpanzees have very similar dynamics.

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Debunk This's avatar

It seems like "protecting 'victims'" trumps everything. So, justifying the claims of the non-victims is a requirement. Hence, the same people supporting the absolute truth of pre-teens who are led to feel uncomfortable or awkward in their bodies – as if they need medical "care" to fix it, are like the people supporting Hamas and justifying their "victimhood" over Israel.

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Squire's avatar

I'm totally with you, but confused as to why one would consider removing shins from a person with Napoleon delusions.

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The Man Who Shouldn't Be King's avatar

Napoleon was short, or people think he was (British propaganda -- though he was kinda short), so removing someone's shins would bring them more in line with how Napoleon "should" look.

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Crumpet's avatar

Same types of people pushing both - hallowed experts completely detached from the consequences of their own decisions.

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Valoree Dowell's avatar

Pride (not the flag kind) goeth before the Fall.

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Richard Parker's avatar

The perfect analogy!

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Navyo Ericsen's avatar

So the MAGA/Pride divide is basically natural/unnatural, authentic/artificial, normal/abnormal. And even sane/insane.

Your simile of transgender surgery is horrific but accurate. They castrate male children and insert part of their colon as a ‘neovagina’ - which can burst and leak fecal matter. This is some twisted gay fantasy to turn a boy’s genitals into a rectum which a man can ‘sodomize’, while destroying the child’s body and his life, purely for their own fantasy pleasure. This is so sick it’s beyond me. What evil is at work?

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Chris Bray's avatar

But it's also bizarrely anti-gay, arguing that a tomboy should have a fake penis sewn on and be a boy, and a feminine boy should be castrated. We're way out past gay, here, and into posthuman. I see the authentic/artificial divide pretty clearly -- that's well said.

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Navyo Ericsen's avatar

Thanks Chris. True, transgender is just a step to transhuman and ultimately posthuman. Schwab, Harari etc. are open about this. The impulse to play God? To make 'people'? There's a lot of money going into artificial wombs, so I assume so. I don't see a happy ending here. The same hubris has brought down civilizations before.

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Tim's avatar

Jennifer Bilek has written extensively on these connections to transhumanism and the billionaires pushing for this toxic slop.

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Valoree Dowell's avatar

“Say their name” to borrow a trope… I’ll start: Pritzker.

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Mitch's avatar

Trans the gay away! Remember when they mocked conversion therapy attempts for homosexuality by the religious right...seems things have gone full circle.

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suannee's avatar

That's an interesting insight.

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Bandit's avatar

The same evil that's ruined so many things, so many people. Satan.

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Ben Smith's avatar

Don't tar the infernal questioner's good name with this arrogance. Evil exists outside the concept of probing questions and is a necessary element if good is to be perceived. My understanding of Satan is as an allegory demonstrating the opposite of unquestioning obedience.

Hail Satan and live in dignity with respect for all who merit it.

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Shrinking Violet's avatar

A lot of people (myself included) think this perverted evil comes directly from the father of lies. There’s a demonic element to all this, somewhat hidden but visible in glimpses: the tunnels, the vast child/trafficking network, the rumors of cannibalism, the volcanic hatred of Christianity, the extremely creepy art, the “pizza” code, etc. it’s a deep rabbit hole that leads to hell.

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Navyo Ericsen's avatar

Absolutely. And they're not rumors: https://www.cannibalclub.org

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Debunk This's avatar

Wait/what? That cannot possibly be real. Please confirm I missed the joke, or I may get nothing done for the next three days. I do not have time for this rabbit hole.

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Shrinking Violet's avatar

Visit their website. It looks real.

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Navyo Ericsen's avatar

Not a joke

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Shrinking Violet's avatar

😱😱😱🤮🤮🤮

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Navyo Ericsen's avatar

I know! Right? They're not hiding. I mean, how could anyone.......

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JasonT's avatar

"God gave them up..." is still one of the most sobering sentences in all of human history.

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Alexander Scipio's avatar

The reality is that the left HATES children.

Their women refuse to have them.

Those that are conceived are aborted.

Those that are born are raised by some other woman

Those making it to school are mal-educated to become purposeless morons

Those making it to college study victimology..

Their parents are hindered from prosperity Democrat economic policies that shrink the economy

Parents making it financially are encouraged, through attacks on womanhood, to not have kids.

Women making it to marriage are the prime instigators of the vast majority of divorces- leaving any kids they have, screwed.

There is not one single policy of the left that does other than destroy the lives of children

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Chris Bray's avatar

Children are the future, so hatred of children is a hatred of life and possibility. It's nihilism.

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Alexander Scipio's avatar

It’s what the left does. 100M+ state murders by the left in the last century. And STILL the kiddies feel communism not only is best, but are willing to kill and burn to achieve it…

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jabster's avatar

Darwin bats last.

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Mitch's avatar

they know if children are abused they eventually become Democrats and require more government services, so they're building up voter base and patronage network simultaneously. Independent healthy people are a threat to them.

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Alexander Scipio's avatar

While that’s true, I’m not at all sure lefties are smart enough to grasp that, or that their time horizon is sufficient for them even to think about it, to the extend any lefties CAN think…

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dave's avatar

It's the 'gnostic impulse'

Philosopher and political scientist said that modern political movements like National Socialism and Communism resemble the ancient religion of gnosticism. Science, Politics and Gnosticism by Voegelin, a short book that should read. Voegelin studied the totalitarian and genocidal political movements of the 20th century.

Gnosticism believes that the god of the Old Testament trapped human souls in physical bodies, that the world is evil, women are evil for bringing more souls into to world, gnocide is really freeing souls and that it is everyone's purpose to help free all souls and reunite with the monad. The Hebrew god is the great deceiver.

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William Hunter Duncan's avatar

I rather hope the no kings "protest" turns out to be nothing. DEM Congress seems desperate to incite a violent insurrection in every town and city.

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Leonard's avatar

Whatever you hope you can bet the news will be loaded with peaceful No Kings protest stories. Theyve already been paid for.

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Vermont Farm Wife's avatar

It's raining again today, Saturday, as it has every Saturday since mid-March. It's also chilly, as it hasn't really warmed up much yet this year.

There's a rally planed down the road at the very lovely Chester green, I'm glad they're all going to be cold and wet. I have half a mind to drive past to see which of my neighbors are crazy lefties. Mind you, many of my neighbors are left-wing, but not all of them are so committed as to stand outside on a cold, rainy day, waving signs, desperately craving the passing honks of like-minded people, people who are not nuts enough to stand out in the cold and rain. I need to know who those particularly dedicated crazy neighbors are.

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Pat Wetzel's avatar

Don't forget to ask them how much they were paid to stand there! And by whom🤔

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William Hunter Duncan's avatar

It is a cold mist here. I was just thinking the same thing before I saw your comment, lol. In my rural area, the town went 70% Trump, the county 80%. But reading the comments section in the local paper, there will be some out there in the wet cold. For maybe an hour.

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Bandit's avatar

🙌

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Madjack's avatar

Res ipsa loquitor. Some things are so obvious that they are hard to confuse. Transitioning children is criminal child abuse and should be prosecuted. I am a surgeon, throw these sick charlatans in jail.

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Korpijarvi's avatar

That you would be ANY coherent after driving around WA state these days is an accomplishment. Semi-coherent is medalworthy. I only manage it by mostly avoiding people here in the rapidly suburbanizing hinterlands of Pugetopolis, where the primary employer is still the Permastate, and neighbors sign their neighborhood e-mails with their university degrees and professional titles and pronouns.

I keep thinking of Julia's observation in Orwell's /1984/: "All that jumping up and down is just sex gone sour."

I keep thinking of all the pain, confusion, fear, mourning, and grief that was inflicted on people from 2020 on...that has never been unpacked. That isn't even discussed. Not even acknowledged. "We will forget about COVID, and that's a good thing!" "Let's have a COVID amnesty!"

Somehow all this tension feels like grief gone sour.

By design, is my conclusion. Do you know about the 1956 Biderman report on "Communist Coercive Methods for Eliciting Individual Compliance"? It used to be a standard thing that Amnesty International publicized in the '70s and '80s. Then, somehow, no longer.

Well, some wise people pulled it out and made a chart of all the Biderman observations on coercion/compliance, and how that mirrored all phases of the "covid" operation. I can't affix it here but you can find it pretty easily in a search, probably.

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Chris Bray's avatar

"Somehow all this tension feels like grief gone sour."

This is an interesting thought.

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nymusicdaily's avatar

biderman's chart of coercion (N korean torture tactics) https://adriennescatholiccorner.blogspot.com/2021/04/biderman-chart-of-coercion.html

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PhDBiologistMom's avatar

Just bought David Zweig’s book and am looking forward to reading it (though it’ll probably just make me mad again about how the lockdowns messed up my teenager’s life).

https://a.co/d/eeP9XWh

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Longstreet's avatar

Think about the level of depravity required to subject your own child to mutilation just to gain the approval of your social circle. Think, too, how utterly cowardly these “parents” are.

There is no punishment too harsh for such as those.

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Kathy Christian's avatar

Think how utterly spiritually bankrupt they have to be to put their kids through that.

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4dEdited

You’re seeing pride flags in the Methow because about every second couple from Seattle has been retiring there for years, blowing up property values and much else while building massive houses for two like the ardent environmentalists they are. Same story throughout much of the inter mountain west.

Still, outside of the Seattle area things get more normal pretty quickly, and I do think that folks are much less likely to pontificate in person, no matter their views. Inside the city limits though, you’re on your own. It’s like the Walking Dead but somehow worse. Don’t even think about going through Portland.

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Pat Wetzel's avatar

Last time I was in Portland was 2017 and even then it was overrun by druggies and homeless. I cannot even imagine how bad it must be now.

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Richard Parker's avatar

Try Vancouver, B.C.

My ultra-left Canadian cousin Ken supports all this, but refuses to go to Vancouver.

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James's avatar

Amen. We live in the Puget Sound area, loved going over to the Methow every winter for the XC skiing and the low key atmosphere. Taught our daughter to ski and enjoy the snow! But the 206ers and 425ers have been turning it into a rich liberal enclave for years. That and a couple of years of bad fires convinced us not to buy a second home there.

WA outside of the Sound and Bellingham is pretty sane; unfortunately the big cities outvote the rest of the state.

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Rikard's avatar

If the USA is on the same trajectory we are - from my view you are - thenthat division isn't just media. It is very real. What the media is doing is emphasising and downplaying in line with the current narrative they've been handed by their corporate captilist owners (and sometimes in defiance of the owners when said owners change the narrative too quickly and too much - that Moran-guy being fired for not toeing the new Disney-line on Trump f.e.).

It's just... one side respects the right to have a different opinion, and the other side do not acknowledge that a different opinion may exist in the first place. You know which is which, and that divide is very real.

And you know which one is held up by evil or mentally ill or both women and weakling un-men, and which one is held up by strong daughters, sisters and mothers, and real men.

That divide too is real. A real man, be he white or whatever, religious or not, does know his right from his wrong and cutting childrens' private parts into mince is very wrong indeed. As does a real woman.

Here, trans-insanity isn't the bigger issue. Invasion-migration is, as we are being subjected to a slow genocide via population replacement. But the same divide exists. I may say in debate that close to or over 200 000 Swedish women of all ages have been raped by non-White foreigners since ca 2005, and the middle-aged AWFL I'm talking at (I say "at" since such women typically don't actually hear or listen to what you say, they're just reacting to triggers) will fixate on the use of "non-White" and "foreigners" rather than the real issue: the rapes. Not even bringing up feminist arguments about "the real number being much faster because most women don't dare report it" helps: the Words declared Haram by moral authority has been uttered, therefore the response must be woke-scolding and in extremis a total chimp-out into tears, threats, and calls for violence.

If that isn't a real divide, well I don't want to experience a realer and wider divide, because I can only think such a one is me and other men going "Fight? Oh, okay, if you insist!". And I think the USA is a lot closer to that breaking-point, and I really do think there are lots of actors pushing you that way. Not into some organised North vs South, but several hundreds or more ever-simmering conflicts á la the Levant since forever.

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Chris Bray's avatar

I think the breaking point we're nearing is that the whole left-Cluster B cultural complex just becomes completely ignored and coded as shameful, basically overnight, at some point in the near future. But we're just guessing at future events. Mixing with other Americans in a diverse range of places, I just don't see the hate.

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Bandit's avatar

I do, every Sunday at church. Every Wednesday at bible study. They're insane.

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Shrinking Violet's avatar

Huh? What church do you attend? How is the hate expressed?

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Bandit's avatar

They all have TDS. They sound just like the news. Trump is horrible and so are all people that think he does anything good. None of this is in a calm voice. Ever. I was screamed at about the tariffs making prices higher, months before any tariffs had actually been imposed. All while they beat on my car's dash to make their point.

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suannee's avatar

I hang out with people from Los Alamos and Santa Fe. They are having No King Days and they are plenty vocal about it. At the social occasions I attend no one speaks about any of it, but if I dare say anything I am ostracized. As an old woman who needs some social interaction, I've learned to keep my remarks for sub stacks and Facebook.

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Bandit's avatar

My town is having a "no kings day" celebration downtown right now. It's been raining most of the day. 🤗🤗🤗

I don't say much, if anything, either. Few friends, most leftists. I let it all out here on Substack, too.

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Vermont Farm Wife's avatar

The church people are insane? Or did I misunderstand your comment?

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Bandit's avatar

Yes. TDS is a form of insanity or delusion, whichever you prefer. Nothing is ever stated calmly. It's with greatly raised voices and banging on whatever is handy.

I go to church to hear the Word, not to listen to the lies about Trump they've gotten from TV.

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Vermont Farm Wife's avatar

Oh, OK, so your church neighbors lean left. Got it. I saw "church" and immediately assumed that your congregation is right-of-center. I stand corrected.

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Bandit's avatar

I don't know any church people in my town that lean right.

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Mitch's avatar

hope you're right

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Rikard's avatar

Having it become unfashionable and a "sins of youth"-kind of thing (a repeat of when the hippies turned into yuppies, no matter if that was amedia-hype or not) would probably be the ideal solution.

Justice and comeuppance for the perpetrators of the mutilation-for-money policies included, of course.

But being a student and teacher of the ideas of history, I know it to be true that ideas always resurges, and I have to wonder in fear-in-advance, at how the current madness will return in 20ish years or so.

Perhaps as TLM: Terminators' Lives Matters?

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Squire's avatar

Simply look at Sarah Creighton's article in the Guardian about Ballymena for an illustration.

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jjinUK64's avatar

The end of your article reminds me of the "People Will Die!" skit by Remy from a few years ago — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXWhbUUE4ko

Reality is totally indistinguishable from parody in this realm.

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Shrinking Violet's avatar

Thanks for the link. Very funny!

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Dena's avatar

Spending some time in N. Idaho. Lots of American flags, Trump flags & signs & so far only 2 pride flags flying on residential homes not businesses. One of the pride flags is flying at a home next to their 20 foot Halloween skeleton that looks like it’s left up all year. So.

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CeeMcG's avatar

I love North Idaho. We have a vacation home in Coeur d’Alene and I bought two rental properties in Post Falls in 2019 after selling an east San Diego home. Best thing I ever did.

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PhDBiologistMom's avatar

A gay friend and his spouse moved to Idaho from California and he said their new neighbors were more taken aback by them being Jewish than them being homosexual (but they were still perfectly welcoming).

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Pat Wetzel's avatar

People here are very nice and live and let live. Don't be a jerk and you'll get along just fine. If your politics are liberal/progressive, keep your political views out of the conversation. No flags or signs please. But isn't that "Being a Good Neighbor 101"?

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Pat Wetzel's avatar

https://youtu.be/HlDWzN6TW5Y?si=ho5os-7S_ZcVp3PD

Same here in ID. Love the gun scene!

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Pat Wetzel's avatar

Idaho rocks. I'm a political refugee from Santa Fe and love it here!

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suannee's avatar

So now I have a recommendation! I would love to move away from the Santa Fe area. I'm old though and have lived in my house for 53 years. My husband died 7 years ago. I should have packed up then, but was advised not to make any big decisions at that time. That has warped into not making any decisions. LOL

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Pat Wetzel's avatar

Sell your house! Take advantage of these high prices! Go on an adventure! The time is now. I'm 68 and personally I think life is about adventure. What have you always wanted to do just for you? Make it so!

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suannee's avatar

I'm 83 and have a short leg (ski accident complicated by a broken femur 4 years ago). My husband and I thankfully had a lot of travel adventures. A friend and I tried to go to Spain in 2021. Neither of us was vaccinated. We were not allowed to go.

When I was 75 and my husband was still alive, my sister and I went on an up-scale cruise to the Caribbean. I wanted to celebrate my December birthday someplace warm. My husband wasn't physically up to going. That was possibly my big adventure. Swam 1 mile in the ocean!! Snorkled almost every day. I would not be able to do that now. Every year after 80 is for me a challenge.

A friend and I went to Alaska on another upscale cruise in 2019. But after covid things just got grim. I got to the Olympic Peninsula with another friend in 2022. That was pretty good. The planes were awful. We both got covid or at least I tested positive. It was like an 8 day cold. And I've had worse colds. Bitch bitch bitch.

As to selling my house, I'll probably croak before I could get rid of everything in order to sell out. LOL.

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Richard Parker's avatar

On the tubie yesterday, I watched a media reporter (maybe Australian) covering the LA riot get shot in the back with a non-lethal round near point blank. She winced in pain.

I thought to myself, "Boy, I bet that hurt."

That was my whole thought except that maybe she could get shot again. And hurt again.

I have no response left to Crocodile Tears. Maybe we are on the edge of a civil war.

When asked about the causes of the Spanish Civil War, Franco’s brother-in-law and his foriegn minister replied "We just hated each other".

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Re: Civil War: Interview with war professor at Oxford College about Great Britain being past the tipping point: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hf0VKszbn7Q

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Susan Creed's avatar

Thank you for posting the link. I tried to listen but none of it sounded credible. The professor said that the UK was 18.6% likely to have civil war whereas 4% was the norm. The interviewer asked why was that and the professor replied “that’s just the way the maths work”. Yeah…. Right… My advice is don’t listen to professors who do not give details of their hypothesis or theories.

People in the UK, where I live, are sick of high immigration and decline of services but I see no signs of civil war atm. I do think that the government wants to promote strife between anybody and everybody everywhere though.

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Mitch's avatar

lol

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Tanto Minchiata's avatar

If you look into the various shifting Leftist political fetishes and victim group affinities of Democrats for more than a few seconds , it becomes like looking at the sun. You don’t literally go blind ( although you may temporarily wish you did) but it’s a blast of incoherent rage, demands, whining, and bumper sticker level persuasion designed to shock you into acquiescence and then affirmation. Of course the incoherence of their arguments becomes rapidly apparent on cursory examination, and by now most of us paying attention can smell the latest Commie psyop blitzkreig a mile away.

The other side, to generalize wants the same things over time. We are consistent, mostly desirous of preserving negative rights: Leave us alone. Don’t infringe on our constitutional /natural rights. Don’t waste our money. Don’t kill babies. Don’t break the law. Don’t start unnecessary wars. You know, the basics, don’t lie, cheat, steal, murder, and disrespect your country and its people.

In fairness there is an increasingly vocal group of far right “Christian-Nationalist-White Rights-Nativist-AntiJew-Etc.” group of poseur Paleolithic retards who exhibit the same ideological spasticity and venom as their Commie counterparts, but these people are the fringe and they are already falling apart because most normal people don’t like this kind of stuff or these strident assholes. Like the Commies, the loudest voices are paid big bucks to stir the pot. Because Trump, they want to split the non-Commies. In this polarized atmosphere you don’t even have to be on the right anymore. You’re either a Commie or you aren’t.

People in the cities are exposed to a lot of bad ideas in a lot of ways. They have certain occupations and certain predilections which push them to think a certain way. They are more susceptible to manipulation ironically, despite being more institutional education. Government money flows here. Political capital and ideology is distributed here. In the hinterlands, the money and latest ideology doesn’t flow and traditional values are still mostly the order of the day. The people don’t hate America, themselves, or their way of life. They seek to preserve it. The predilections are rightly reversed.

Most people in person will still maintain a veneer of civility. The people getting paid to riot for lousy causes and bad ideas will not. But they aren’t likely to be outside their bubble.

We are fighting a long battle because we let things get out of hand. We got lazy and ignored the warning signs. Trump is doing the right things. It’s going to take a while, but he’s making progress. Don’t give up. The Commies don’t care about anything but power/control. Everything else is just a tool to get it.

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