The news media is calmly warning that Donald Trump is planning to ban transgender servicemembers from the American military, which will absolutely gut the armed forces.
I don't care if it's 15, 1500, or 15,000: One is too many. There are already enough mentally ill people in the military as it is, letting them in *because* they are mentally ill is downright shoe on head we-todd. Next thing you know, the military will be giving waivers to fat people who can't run, people just like Martinez's mom.
I absolutely loved that part of military life…you could pimp each other ceaselessly, but when the SHTF, you all pulled together and did what needed to be done!
They already have, sort of. I just read not so long ago that the Navy has retooled the fitness requirements and have been doing so here and there over the years - making it less difficult to pass. Just look at photos from soldiers of yesteryear to photos today - the difference is alarming. Anyone see those videos from China and Russia extolling the virtue of their very fit soldiers compared to the Pronoun Using promo from our military (not sure which branch)?
Not that I don't have profound respect for anyone who joins, I do, have many family members who have, but I want a military force that is better fit and ready to defend us than the general population. I think that is the norm, not outside the Overton Window of today. I don't think I'm wrong to think that.
Surely a woke military must have a nail specialist in each unit--that's probably where the 15,000 trans troops serve (at least those that aren't hypothetical).
Isolating conditions in the military can facilitate developing an addiction to porn and autogynephilia in men. Start from offering them normal therapy sessions, nothing "gender affirming". And stop offering quackeries like cross-sex hormones and gender surgeries on taxpayer money.
I imagine it depends on the jurisdiction. Can't be many LE officers proud to be serving the Soros politicians and DAs who created the no-jail and homeless-camp slums of cities like LA or San Fran.
As difficult as it is, now, to find a job that pays well enough to support a family, I'm guessing that most of the men and women who were illegally discharged because they refused the Clot Shot, will stay home and collect welfare instead of dying in Ukraine to support gangsters and the Biden Crime Syndicate.
That is an intriguing thought. With the 3rd Obama administration dragging its feet supporting Israel, Israel stands alone and will overcome its enemies - even if that includes the USSA.
I can appreciate your comment, Renee; but the entire world has been America's bitch since 1945. Yes, Harry Truman was the first to recognize Israel's right to a homeland following the holocaust and, until Obama took over the Democratic Party, the USA could be counted on to support its only ally in the Mideast.
Current events show, however, that the 3rd Obama administration has no respect for Netanyahu. Possibly the Abraham Accords will be helpful in bringing stability to that part of the world.
I sure don't remember anyone wringing their hands about all of the good un vaccinated soldiers they would lose, the money lost... and these were some of the best soldiers by basis of accomplishment, not rank granted by Identify/ DEI
Great point! These hand-wringers over the trans issue didn’t give a damn about the impact of losing 8000 plus fully qualified service men and women for refusing the jab!
No matter how many trannies there are in the military, there are too many. The idea that removing mentally ill people from the military is a negative is absurd.
Chris, I’m glad you drilled down as much as you could and provided the best information you could find. As you point out the 15,000 number will be repeated over and over again, so it’s nice to know the actual number is way lower, not that it really matters. Like others have said, let’s get these mentally ill people out of the military.
This is yet another example of why mainstream media cannot be trusted anymore. It’s analogous to the numbers they give for illegal immigration. The number of illegal immigrants present in the United States has been “11 million” since the Bush era — despite the fact that they just keep coming (tens of millions in the last four years). But it’s always “11 million” for the media.
It’s AMAZING to me that the supposedly über-intelligent Left cannot remember their cause célèbres from even 2 years ago when they wanted unvaccinated service members COURT-MARTIALED for noncompliance with St. Fauci.
And now they decry the loss of even 1 of these exemplars of military prowess who celebrate their overpowering strength by slicing off their johnson (at taxpayers’ expense, of course).
I have to ask, if I have to pay for it, do I get to choose the amount of anesthetic?
Wait, help me understand the latest cover of “there are so few trans people that we can’t understand why others (haters) make it such a big deal” versus “there are so many trans people in the military we can’t fight a war without them”
It’s a circular problem : our half of the country is extremely tired of doing so very many extreme things that aren’t extreme , and no one noticing the not extreme at all results. See?
They leave out the pent-up demand of conservative patriots who just want to do their part to preserve and protect this great nation rather than join a carnival side show. Something tells me this far exceeds 15,000.
What cracks me up is how the defense of trannies anywhere in our society shifts as necessary: so, right now the number of them is said to be vanishingly small, yet we have to change the way society functions just to accommodate them. But now it turns out there are 15,000 in the military? Why so many trannies in the military, of all places? Probably because the military has bent over backwards to accommodate them maybe? Every one of them should be discharged and immediately, if just for the savings alone on drugs, surgeries, and psychiatric care. Our military is a joke. Of course the tranny defenders will argue we will decimate the armed forces if they're forced out; it never occurs to them that the recruitment problem is undoubtedly caused by mentally ill people in the military.
"Why so many trannies in the military, of all places? Probably because the military has bent over backwards to accommodate them maybe?"--Backwards, forwards, and every other conceivable and inconceivable position.
As if we need another example of media lying.Back in the '90's, it was all the young women dying of eating disorders. It was "at least 100,000 per year"! Except when the CDC brought out the actual # that had been reported, it was less than 1,000. Sad but more than 99,000 off. That's what you can do when you have the media making up #'s. I don't doubt there are those who wish they were something else than what they were born as and they should receive medical help but maybe they shouldn't be in the military and some other professions to begin with.
They're using the word "extreme" in place of "somewhat" kind of like all the kids these days using the word "literally" when they "mean not literally at all"
Great line: "They aren’t moving the Overton Window — they’re covering it with a tarp and painting a fake window fifty feet away. “Look, look, there’s the window of normal discourse!” With paint still dripping down the wall."
I’m thinking that soon the only people who can read/watch/listen to the MSM will be the folks like you who point out their lies for the rest of us. I’m not being sarcastic when I say we are lucky to have folks to do this brave work, most of us don’t have the constitution for it.
The US military discharged 8,400 service members for declining the PLAV (People’s Liberation Army Virus) non-vaccine. As I recall, any stories about that purge of conscientious objectors blamed the purgees, not the purgers. I guess the line between “serves ‘em right, the mf-ers, I hope it was a dishonorable discharge” and “we all goin’ die!” runs somewhere between 8,400 and 15,000. Has to, right, if we’re being "consistent"?
There were also lots of retirements and lots of guys who just didn’t re-enlist because of the jabs as well. Then there’s all the people they had to medically retire because of myocarditis and other vaccine related side effects…
The messaging is getting sloppy and more obvious in its bias. Does the news media think we forgot the Biden administrations firing of thousands of navy seals etc over Covid shots? Weren’t we told we didn’t need them if they wouldn’t comply? How about the witch hunt for Christian nationalists pervading the military ranks and how they had to be purged to save democracy? How stupid and forgetful do these people believe we are? Wonder why they’re hemorrhaging viewers? This is why!
I don't care if it's 15, 1500, or 15,000: One is too many. There are already enough mentally ill people in the military as it is, letting them in *because* they are mentally ill is downright shoe on head we-todd. Next thing you know, the military will be giving waivers to fat people who can't run, people just like Martinez's mom.
Martinez is RIGHT HERE, and he can totally hear you
LOL
Martinez here. Sorry so late to the thread, I was just finishing up with your mother.
Brutal!
I absolutely loved that part of military life…you could pimp each other ceaselessly, but when the SHTF, you all pulled together and did what needed to be done!
They already have, sort of. I just read not so long ago that the Navy has retooled the fitness requirements and have been doing so here and there over the years - making it less difficult to pass. Just look at photos from soldiers of yesteryear to photos today - the difference is alarming. Anyone see those videos from China and Russia extolling the virtue of their very fit soldiers compared to the Pronoun Using promo from our military (not sure which branch)?
Not that I don't have profound respect for anyone who joins, I do, have many family members who have, but I want a military force that is better fit and ready to defend us than the general population. I think that is the norm, not outside the Overton Window of today. I don't think I'm wrong to think that.
I was in the NAVY 12 years. Would NOT join today.
Neither would my daughter who got out in 2022 and my husband who has been out since 1985, nor my brother who exited in 1992 I think. Sad days.
Martinez's mom should totally be in the army. How many women do you know who can deploy in 5 different countries at the same time?
You sir, win the internet for today, and it is only 0610 here. Who needs three Ranger battalions when you have Martinez's mom, amiright?
Besides every Ranger battalion needs soft cover, and she can hide all three!
It's hard to load your weapon when you have 6" nails, and your lipstick must be constantly reapplied, I would think.
Surely a woke military must have a nail specialist in each unit--that's probably where the 15,000 trans troops serve (at least those that aren't hypothetical).
Isolating conditions in the military can facilitate developing an addiction to porn and autogynephilia in men. Start from offering them normal therapy sessions, nothing "gender affirming". And stop offering quackeries like cross-sex hormones and gender surgeries on taxpayer money.
They won't be giving waivers to fat people, they'll be giving them free Wegovy.
I believe some version of that is already being implemented
Well, they didn't think it was extreme to get rid of the military members who didn't want the jab.
Here's a thought: get the unjabbed to come back to fill in the gap!
Until the “next time”, right?
Live your life as God/Creator wants you to…not war mongering.
I gave 23 years of my life to “law enforcement” …what a complete joke.
Would I do it today?🤣🖕
Thank you for serving.
Sad to read this. I gave 48 years to law enforcement and would give 48 more if I was physically able.
I imagine it depends on the jurisdiction. Can't be many LE officers proud to be serving the Soros politicians and DAs who created the no-jail and homeless-camp slums of cities like LA or San Fran.
I know 😉!
As difficult as it is, now, to find a job that pays well enough to support a family, I'm guessing that most of the men and women who were illegally discharged because they refused the Clot Shot, will stay home and collect welfare instead of dying in Ukraine to support gangsters and the Biden Crime Syndicate.
And Israel…that’s coming next.
That is an intriguing thought. With the 3rd Obama administration dragging its feet supporting Israel, Israel stands alone and will overcome its enemies - even if that includes the USSA.
The USSA is Israel’s bitch.
I can appreciate your comment, Renee; but the entire world has been America's bitch since 1945. Yes, Harry Truman was the first to recognize Israel's right to a homeland following the holocaust and, until Obama took over the Democratic Party, the USA could be counted on to support its only ally in the Mideast.
Current events show, however, that the 3rd Obama administration has no respect for Netanyahu. Possibly the Abraham Accords will be helpful in bringing stability to that part of the world.
I sure don't remember anyone wringing their hands about all of the good un vaccinated soldiers they would lose, the money lost... and these were some of the best soldiers by basis of accomplishment, not rank granted by Identify/ DEI
Indeed, having a backbone used to be regarded as a positive in military service.
Under a 4th Obama administration, only those with both a penis and a vagina will be allowed to enter the higher ranks.
Backbone does not equal pronouns.
Great point! These hand-wringers over the trans issue didn’t give a damn about the impact of losing 8000 plus fully qualified service men and women for refusing the jab!
No matter how many trannies there are in the military, there are too many. The idea that removing mentally ill people from the military is a negative is absurd.
Chris, I’m glad you drilled down as much as you could and provided the best information you could find. As you point out the 15,000 number will be repeated over and over again, so it’s nice to know the actual number is way lower, not that it really matters. Like others have said, let’s get these mentally ill people out of the military.
This is yet another example of why mainstream media cannot be trusted anymore. It’s analogous to the numbers they give for illegal immigration. The number of illegal immigrants present in the United States has been “11 million” since the Bush era — despite the fact that they just keep coming (tens of millions in the last four years). But it’s always “11 million” for the media.
It’s AMAZING to me that the supposedly über-intelligent Left cannot remember their cause célèbres from even 2 years ago when they wanted unvaccinated service members COURT-MARTIALED for noncompliance with St. Fauci.
And now they decry the loss of even 1 of these exemplars of military prowess who celebrate their overpowering strength by slicing off their johnson (at taxpayers’ expense, of course).
I have to ask, if I have to pay for it, do I get to choose the amount of anesthetic?
Wait, help me understand the latest cover of “there are so few trans people that we can’t understand why others (haters) make it such a big deal” versus “there are so many trans people in the military we can’t fight a war without them”
Both of these can’t be true.
Progs and reality are in different universes.
It’s a circular problem : our half of the country is extremely tired of doing so very many extreme things that aren’t extreme , and no one noticing the not extreme at all results. See?
Exactly, Regina
They leave out the pent-up demand of conservative patriots who just want to do their part to preserve and protect this great nation rather than join a carnival side show. Something tells me this far exceeds 15,000.
What cracks me up is how the defense of trannies anywhere in our society shifts as necessary: so, right now the number of them is said to be vanishingly small, yet we have to change the way society functions just to accommodate them. But now it turns out there are 15,000 in the military? Why so many trannies in the military, of all places? Probably because the military has bent over backwards to accommodate them maybe? Every one of them should be discharged and immediately, if just for the savings alone on drugs, surgeries, and psychiatric care. Our military is a joke. Of course the tranny defenders will argue we will decimate the armed forces if they're forced out; it never occurs to them that the recruitment problem is undoubtedly caused by mentally ill people in the military.
"Why so many trannies in the military, of all places? Probably because the military has bent over backwards to accommodate them maybe?"--Backwards, forwards, and every other conceivable and inconceivable position.
As if we need another example of media lying.Back in the '90's, it was all the young women dying of eating disorders. It was "at least 100,000 per year"! Except when the CDC brought out the actual # that had been reported, it was less than 1,000. Sad but more than 99,000 off. That's what you can do when you have the media making up #'s. I don't doubt there are those who wish they were something else than what they were born as and they should receive medical help but maybe they shouldn't be in the military and some other professions to begin with.
Danny Huckabee
One toooo many , no thank u . We need to stop normalizing mental illness.
Normalizing it and then celebrating it.
And then demanding it.
They're using the word "extreme" in place of "somewhat" kind of like all the kids these days using the word "literally" when they "mean not literally at all"
Great line: "They aren’t moving the Overton Window — they’re covering it with a tarp and painting a fake window fifty feet away. “Look, look, there’s the window of normal discourse!” With paint still dripping down the wall."
I’m thinking that soon the only people who can read/watch/listen to the MSM will be the folks like you who point out their lies for the rest of us. I’m not being sarcastic when I say we are lucky to have folks to do this brave work, most of us don’t have the constitution for it.
The US military discharged 8,400 service members for declining the PLAV (People’s Liberation Army Virus) non-vaccine. As I recall, any stories about that purge of conscientious objectors blamed the purgees, not the purgers. I guess the line between “serves ‘em right, the mf-ers, I hope it was a dishonorable discharge” and “we all goin’ die!” runs somewhere between 8,400 and 15,000. Has to, right, if we’re being "consistent"?
There were also lots of retirements and lots of guys who just didn’t re-enlist because of the jabs as well. Then there’s all the people they had to medically retire because of myocarditis and other vaccine related side effects…
You bet. I know one such cadet who left West Point for just that reason.
The messaging is getting sloppy and more obvious in its bias. Does the news media think we forgot the Biden administrations firing of thousands of navy seals etc over Covid shots? Weren’t we told we didn’t need them if they wouldn’t comply? How about the witch hunt for Christian nationalists pervading the military ranks and how they had to be purged to save democracy? How stupid and forgetful do these people believe we are? Wonder why they’re hemorrhaging viewers? This is why!
I believe that navy fired 15000 Seals.
I estimate that this is correct.
There are only 3000 active and reserve SEaLS
There are only 3000 navy seals total at any given time.