Hypocite barstards all over the West. Nature Coontservacy is a pit of goobermint welfare check cashers, steal our land and send in L.L. Bean safari clothed scyrentists around to count the daisies and prairie dogs. "Nice view out here without all the rednecks and cow manure!" - also - "can you believe the price of hamburger, Fruity?"
Easy to do as most I believe are 501c.3 and those who are need to have an in person visit to their offices where you request to see their financial books. Which they cannot refuse the request to open the books for the requester to conduct what essentially is an audit. You cannot make a copy. But can photograph the documents and if a computer spreadsheet all cells must be opened and not collapsed.
"Real assets", interests in which they'll tokenize in order to monetize/trade/control. Everything will be a digital asset, including you, in the digital prison they are creating for us.
I'm guessing it's the ranchers too busy ranching and the farmers too busy farming to have the time to create and maintain shell NGOs that act as fake environmental mobs. And local ranching and local farming isn't lucrative enough to pay hired guns to do it for them.
On the other side are the rich Marin County residents who are venture capitalists, tech bros and biotech founders who do have the money to pay hired guns to remove the undesirables and deplorables in a way that makes them feel righteous and noble. The same people that pay to host Bernie Sander and AOC and the "Fight the Oligarchy" tour.
However, setting up dummy groups is less work than you'd think, once you've gotten the hang of it. Ideally, hiring someone with the legal know-what to do that on-demand is best, second best is if someone in the cell has the knowledge.
In my radical days, we used to organise groups so that everyone started their own registered group (you could get tax funding legally that way) and everyone else signed up as members in every group.
(Obviously, the legal stuff is different here from the USA.)
On paper, that makes a dozen people look like a "movement", and if the "movement" can get some good press by checking some boxes ("climate-friendly farmers's livelyhoods and land threatened by rich capitalists looking to gentrify a nature-preserve" kind of stuff), maybe land a soft-ball interview with local news and drum up a little online hype among podcasters - it's not unlikely that some scum politician will latch on to it as a Cause.
And once the polity is at war with itself over an issue where both sides have managed to label themselves as The Good Guys in public, well whatever happens will be a long ways off until the conflict is resolved.
Easy to armchair-quarterback of course, I know from experience.
True but they should have been member of a coop that would act on their behalf because they would all profit from that. If that wasn’t the case then that’s on those ranchers and farmers.
I don’t think it’s so much a question of the activists being “very good” at their tactics, but more that they’re WILLING to carry them out. While the ranchers, I’d wager, tend to be more libertarian in just wanting to be left alone to produce meat for a meat-eating country. This is how we’ve lost so many things.
It’s like living in a safe neighborhood where you don’t lock your doors. Then one day some asshole walks in and steals your tv. The rules need to change.
“Activism is a business , played against minimal competition. Business is good . “ So sad … same playbook all around us …. Control and money . They want , what they want , when THEY want it . We are surrounded un empathetic, self centered , spoiled asshats .
i suspect that the majority of the unempathetic self centered spoiled asshats were born after 1986 and the childhood vax injury act. this is what happens when vax-damaged children who have been conditioned to numbingly repeat the same empty mantras are put in positions of responsibility where they are completely out of their element
With all due respect, blaming vaccines as cause for this effect is superficial. IMO the cause is three-fold: father, Father and patria. The (mis)behavior in this group is triggered by the lack of one if not all three.
Agreed; but also it used to be well-known that vaxing a child under age 6 harms the brain; this was very well-known when I was a kid. Back then it was known you NEVER jab a child under age 6 minimum because of it harming/damaging the brain. I was jabbed at age 5 in 1960 and the doctor told me then why he had to do it even though it really, really went against his grain. I developed autism shortly after but it's not a serious case. In late 80s is when the brains of the jabbed kids changed because they started jabbing them when they were too young. Also, moms had to work due to high cost of living so kids were left alone often when they got home from school.
Remember the migrant shelters that were empty, but still recieving millions of dollars each month to be ready "just in case?" This strikes me as on the same level. A nature conservation group will take over managing the land to keep it safe from the ranchers that they forced out. You know, because ranchers just might try to sneak back in. So, they will have to have millions of dollars to leave the land alone and be ready in case roaming bands of ranchers decide to come back.
Somewhere along the line, environmental groups became a self-livking ice cream cone, protecting stuff that doesn't need protection and consistently opposing actual people's needs. They are one of the biggest things that have made California home to rich and poor and driven out Californians in the middle.
Good to read a follow on this story, thank you Chris Bray.
Do you have a theory on what these "conservancy" groups are up to in their desire to remove good caretakers like ranchers or dairy farmers off of public lands? In addition, interesting that there is a drive now under the current Sec of the Interior and Sec of Agriculture to sell off this fragile and must be protected (from humans, sarcasm) public land. Has it actually been mortgaged in exchange of our 37 trillion in public debt that has been accruing for 50 years? Questions, questions...
The conservancy groups are a mix of extremely sincere people who sometimes hate all cattle ranching and sometimes think there's too much of it, and I've met some of them. Some are literal vegan radicals, some just want to protect nature against the thing they call the Anthropocene, the age of man. Some good people, some lunatics. I think there's also a real amount of empire-building, an attempt to grow a kind of business, and NGOs are often about money as much as for-profit corporations.
No shit, Bro! I suspect that with sufficient resources, one could apodictically determine that "activism" is the least productive, most profitable, swindle ever foisted on the human race.
I just went grocery shopping and was looking for some bleu cheese of good quality. I found some, and while studying the label, saw it originated from Point Reyes, California. I wondered how long that product would be available. P.S. I’m in West-Central Wisconsin.
I've asked those exact cheese makers that question, and they say that for now they have adequate supply from Sonoma. But this will not be the last attack on ranching and dairy farmers.
I lived not far from Pt. Reyes for years and I remember there was a thriving cheese market from Pt. Reyes farmers. I remember driving through there on the roads and seeing signs on the ranches that gave the year the ranch was established, i.e. 1830s to 1860s. I really, really feel for those poor ranchers, that was their whole life. I'm certain many will die of a broken heart. Ranching is all they know and they are proud of their prowess. Those poor families. Many of those families have probably known each other for 200 years.
I agree. It’s incredibly disturbing…here are folks living a good, and hard-working lifestyle, not hurting anyone or anything, yet their livelihood and lives are virtually destroyed. All for greed, in my opinion.
Agreed, it's VERY disturbing. They inherited a gift from their ancestors who worked hard for 200 yrs and it was a sacred thing to inherit what they did and a sacred charge for them to continue it. This is why I'm concerned that some will be suicidal and/or will die of a broken heart. There's so much that is just wrong with this whole operation, it's still unbelievable to me that this is happening. And yes, all for greed.
California: Eat local and support small farms to save the planet!
Also California: Shut down small local ranches and farms to save the planet!
Hypocite barstards all over the West. Nature Coontservacy is a pit of goobermint welfare check cashers, steal our land and send in L.L. Bean safari clothed scyrentists around to count the daisies and prairie dogs. "Nice view out here without all the rednecks and cow manure!" - also - "can you believe the price of hamburger, Fruity?"
Hypocrite bastards yes but also many simply believe-anything-virtue-signalling-conformist ignorants.
Looks like a lot of the campaigning against the Point Reyes ranchers was done by out of state groups and out of state people though.
But maybe you can get your crickets and worms 3D printed using magic invisible vapor
More corruption in California. I’m beginning to see a pattern here…
Chris, great reporting on this issue. Point Reyes is a small piece of a larger puzzle. I wonder what the final image is.
let's take this a step further. who's funding all these ngo's - other than USAID?
what is the endgame?
maybe this has somethng to do with "30 by 2030" ? https://www.nature.org/en-us/what-we-do/our-priorities/protect-water-and-land/land-and-water-stories/committing-to-30x30/
removing humans from the land so as to open it up to wall street swindlers who want to turn it into "natural asset capital", gamble on it and reap "stewardship fees?" https://elizabethnickson.substack.com/p/the-wall-of-death-for-western-economies
Easy to do as most I believe are 501c.3 and those who are need to have an in person visit to their offices where you request to see their financial books. Which they cannot refuse the request to open the books for the requester to conduct what essentially is an audit. You cannot make a copy. But can photograph the documents and if a computer spreadsheet all cells must be opened and not collapsed.
"Real assets", interests in which they'll tokenize in order to monetize/trade/control. Everything will be a digital asset, including you, in the digital prison they are creating for us.
That's the way to do it: start umpty-zillion groups to appear as a movement.
Anyone can do it.
Why only one side does it, is for the people who don't do it to ponder about themselves.
Maybe, they are feeling: "Well, I may be losing, but at least I'm losing gracefully and without cheating"
If you say so, but you're still losing and that's a-okay with your opponent.
I'm guessing it's the ranchers too busy ranching and the farmers too busy farming to have the time to create and maintain shell NGOs that act as fake environmental mobs. And local ranching and local farming isn't lucrative enough to pay hired guns to do it for them.
On the other side are the rich Marin County residents who are venture capitalists, tech bros and biotech founders who do have the money to pay hired guns to remove the undesirables and deplorables in a way that makes them feel righteous and noble. The same people that pay to host Bernie Sander and AOC and the "Fight the Oligarchy" tour.
Absolutely it is as you say.
However, setting up dummy groups is less work than you'd think, once you've gotten the hang of it. Ideally, hiring someone with the legal know-what to do that on-demand is best, second best is if someone in the cell has the knowledge.
In my radical days, we used to organise groups so that everyone started their own registered group (you could get tax funding legally that way) and everyone else signed up as members in every group.
(Obviously, the legal stuff is different here from the USA.)
On paper, that makes a dozen people look like a "movement", and if the "movement" can get some good press by checking some boxes ("climate-friendly farmers's livelyhoods and land threatened by rich capitalists looking to gentrify a nature-preserve" kind of stuff), maybe land a soft-ball interview with local news and drum up a little online hype among podcasters - it's not unlikely that some scum politician will latch on to it as a Cause.
And once the polity is at war with itself over an issue where both sides have managed to label themselves as The Good Guys in public, well whatever happens will be a long ways off until the conflict is resolved.
Easy to armchair-quarterback of course, I know from experience.
nailed it. The rentier class has the time and resources to subvert the working class.
True but they should have been member of a coop that would act on their behalf because they would all profit from that. If that wasn’t the case then that’s on those ranchers and farmers.
I don’t think it’s so much a question of the activists being “very good” at their tactics, but more that they’re WILLING to carry them out. While the ranchers, I’d wager, tend to be more libertarian in just wanting to be left alone to produce meat for a meat-eating country. This is how we’ve lost so many things.
It’s like living in a safe neighborhood where you don’t lock your doors. Then one day some asshole walks in and steals your tv. The rules need to change.
The ranchers ranch for a living, so the legal battle is a costly distraction.
The activists protest for a living, so the legal battle is their day job.
Via big government and taxpayer money funneled into "Non Government Organizations" we've created a huge class of specialized parasites.
We really don’t hate them enough
“Activism is a business , played against minimal competition. Business is good . “ So sad … same playbook all around us …. Control and money . They want , what they want , when THEY want it . We are surrounded un empathetic, self centered , spoiled asshats .
i suspect that the majority of the unempathetic self centered spoiled asshats were born after 1986 and the childhood vax injury act. this is what happens when vax-damaged children who have been conditioned to numbingly repeat the same empty mantras are put in positions of responsibility where they are completely out of their element
With all due respect, blaming vaccines as cause for this effect is superficial. IMO the cause is three-fold: father, Father and patria. The (mis)behavior in this group is triggered by the lack of one if not all three.
Agreed; but also it used to be well-known that vaxing a child under age 6 harms the brain; this was very well-known when I was a kid. Back then it was known you NEVER jab a child under age 6 minimum because of it harming/damaging the brain. I was jabbed at age 5 in 1960 and the doctor told me then why he had to do it even though it really, really went against his grain. I developed autism shortly after but it's not a serious case. In late 80s is when the brains of the jabbed kids changed because they started jabbing them when they were too young. Also, moms had to work due to high cost of living so kids were left alone often when they got home from school.
I appreciate your point of view and experience.
Thank you, I appreciate your response!
we've bred a race of slaves who can't process what father, Father and patria are
"Draw your own conclusion. But mine is that activism is a business, played against minimal competition. And business is good."
We have Leftist activists selling Racist/DEI programs/seminars etc. to Leftist activists running government with zero competition in sight, so yeah...
Business is very good for the Left and the rest of us are paying their Beemer bills.
Remember the migrant shelters that were empty, but still recieving millions of dollars each month to be ready "just in case?" This strikes me as on the same level. A nature conservation group will take over managing the land to keep it safe from the ranchers that they forced out. You know, because ranchers just might try to sneak back in. So, they will have to have millions of dollars to leave the land alone and be ready in case roaming bands of ranchers decide to come back.
Please just listen to the first 3 minutes… from ranching to the medical field… this is the mentality. You decide. https://www.thefocalpoints.com/p/three-great-medical-controversies?utm_source=podcast-email&publication_id=1119676&post_id=174093665&utm_campaign=email-play-on-substack&utm_content=watch_now_button&r=k92dd&triedRedirect=true&utm_medium=email
Wow! Definitely worth listening to.
omg bnyb this is hilarious, my ex gf had a place in chautauqua!
Did they fix motorcycles?
dunno, had gotten rid of mine by then
Somewhere along the line, environmental groups became a self-livking ice cream cone, protecting stuff that doesn't need protection and consistently opposing actual people's needs. They are one of the biggest things that have made California home to rich and poor and driven out Californians in the middle.
Good to read a follow on this story, thank you Chris Bray.
Do you have a theory on what these "conservancy" groups are up to in their desire to remove good caretakers like ranchers or dairy farmers off of public lands? In addition, interesting that there is a drive now under the current Sec of the Interior and Sec of Agriculture to sell off this fragile and must be protected (from humans, sarcasm) public land. Has it actually been mortgaged in exchange of our 37 trillion in public debt that has been accruing for 50 years? Questions, questions...
The conservancy groups are a mix of extremely sincere people who sometimes hate all cattle ranching and sometimes think there's too much of it, and I've met some of them. Some are literal vegan radicals, some just want to protect nature against the thing they call the Anthropocene, the age of man. Some good people, some lunatics. I think there's also a real amount of empire-building, an attempt to grow a kind of business, and NGOs are often about money as much as for-profit corporations.
I also think they want to stop ranching for real meat and promote the vegan alternatives. No thanks
Thanks Chris for writing about this. Mainstream media sure is silent about it. Americans need to know about this war against our farmers.
Curious to know if the Gates Foundation donates to any of these which would explain a portion of the why.
"activism is a business"
No shit, Bro! I suspect that with sufficient resources, one could apodictically determine that "activism" is the least productive, most profitable, swindle ever foisted on the human race.
I just went grocery shopping and was looking for some bleu cheese of good quality. I found some, and while studying the label, saw it originated from Point Reyes, California. I wondered how long that product would be available. P.S. I’m in West-Central Wisconsin.
I've asked those exact cheese makers that question, and they say that for now they have adequate supply from Sonoma. But this will not be the last attack on ranching and dairy farmers.
No it certainly won’t be the last. It’s somewhere between incredibly difficult and virtually impossible to not be very cynical.
I lived not far from Pt. Reyes for years and I remember there was a thriving cheese market from Pt. Reyes farmers. I remember driving through there on the roads and seeing signs on the ranches that gave the year the ranch was established, i.e. 1830s to 1860s. I really, really feel for those poor ranchers, that was their whole life. I'm certain many will die of a broken heart. Ranching is all they know and they are proud of their prowess. Those poor families. Many of those families have probably known each other for 200 years.
I agree. It’s incredibly disturbing…here are folks living a good, and hard-working lifestyle, not hurting anyone or anything, yet their livelihood and lives are virtually destroyed. All for greed, in my opinion.
Agreed, it's VERY disturbing. They inherited a gift from their ancestors who worked hard for 200 yrs and it was a sacred thing to inherit what they did and a sacred charge for them to continue it. This is why I'm concerned that some will be suicidal and/or will die of a broken heart. There's so much that is just wrong with this whole operation, it's still unbelievable to me that this is happening. And yes, all for greed.
The sane world, living in reality, needs to find a way to nuke the funding of these.
Sadly, this is NOT a "sane" world - as is evidenced by the events if the last few weeks.
I've been fond of saying, for many years... reality always wins.
Yeah, but sometimes it takes a while. A loooong while.
And Deb will be the next Governor of NM because we love idiots in Santa Fe. Especially Native American idiots.
What a thought
She’s even dumber than the one we have know.
As a former dairy farmer, the most compassionate thing I can suggest is NEVER, ever get into dairy farming.
As usual, follow the money.