Experts warn that experts no longer have any credibility, and as a result, the health of the least healthy nation on earth--the nation experts have been advising for decades--is sure to decline.
“You have just described most of the people who work for the corporate media.”
Untrue.
Most of the so-called journalists in the MSM today have never known anything about anything. They only know their ideology and how to make all narratives about that.
Where some of those “experts” do know something about something, some of the time.
But of course, the ones that know something are not the ones cited by the corporate media, except when it happens to intersect with their narrative.
“At one small group meeting Thursday morning, two people broke down in tears, according to an employee who was present. At another meeting, a senior leader who has always stayed calm under pressure was visibly shaking, another scientist said.”
There are 150 comments before this one; I haven’t read most of them and no one will probably read this one so it won’t matter if I’m repeating something someone else already pointed out, but: the two “people” who broke down in tears and the “senior leader” who was shaking — we can safely assume all three were women, correct? Why are women who cannot control their emotions in senior scientific leadership positions in our government? To be clear, I’m not saying women as a class shouldn’t be in such positions, but I’m definitely saying that histrionic, emotionally incontinent left-wing women shouldn’t be.
I read your reply, Refenestrated. Perhaps your sentence needs to be expanded slightly in order to complete it, so as to read: “…histrionic, emotionally incontinent left-wing women shouldn’t be in positions of power or critical decision making”.
I’ve been sober (my own health decision) for six weeks. This, TFP story about online cultivation of nihilism, and several others I need not review, is testing my resolve. I’ve not succumbed, because it won’t help distract the devil’s work…
I walked away the week beginning August 17. My mood improved considerably. The problem - when I returned I had 500+ unread emails. No rest for the wicked, I guess.
Yes, I spent a couple hours recently watching videos of McArthur Park around the FedGov-ICE "raid" staged photo-op/psy op. L.A. Mayor Bass is a delusion liar.... Even 3rd world shitholes are cleaner & safer.... Well, except in India, maybe!....
But the fact remains, barefootin' in grass is very therapeutic....your neighbors lawn will suffice....
Since you are on a self-corrective journey, I hate to bring this up. However, I've lived in NM since 1967. If anyone thinks those clouds are natural, they are disabused. The spraying here is relentless. What used to be clean air, such that TB patients were sent to NM to clear their lungs, is now sometimes rated poor and often has at least a rating of 48 for ozone by Accuweather. NWS lies about the status of the air quality. The faux environmental groups here claim the pollution is from "industry". NM has almost no industry. Though there are tourists driving, the population is 2.1 M in a 121,600 sq miles-5th largest state. The pollution sometimes makes for nice sunsets. The actual natural sunsets from years ago were more spectacular.
(May 27, 2021) NY Times COVID Reporter Deletes Tweet Claiming ‘Racist Roots’ of ‘Lab Leak Theory’ After Backlash; Apoorva Mandavilli says her deleted tweets were "badly phrased"
RACIST: Believing a virus escaped from a Chinese laboratory.
NOT RACIST: Believing a viral pandemic was caused because Chinese people like to eat bats and pangolins.
The Bigotry Accusation works like a Swiss Army Knife for our liberal gentry: They break it out on any occasion when they feel their authority being threatened and want to bully people into compliance.
Smart, ambitious foreigners know that once they come to the West they can get anxious, neurotic Europeans to do their bidding just by crying RACIST! (Sadly they're right.) Mandavilla immigrated here from India just to let us know how wicked, backwards and bigoted Americans are. She will go far, never starve, cash large checks while denouncing capitalism, and end up with an Ivy League sinecure (she's already been an NYU prof and gave the Yale School of Public Health’s 2023 Commencement speech).
White liberal guilt is a lucrative natural resource, bought and sold by the NYT and its ideological allies in media and academia.
75 years ago, during the Nuremberg trials, judges asked Hermann Göring (Hitters right hand) how they made Germany accept all the madness. He said: 'The only thing a government needs to turn people into slaves, is FEAR. If you can find something to make them afraid, you can make them do whatever you want.'
"public health experts believe updated shots provide short-term partial protection against infection"
This reads so much like Marketing copy it's insane. It's deliberately vague. They're clearly afraid one of the few remaining mouth breathers is going to sue their balls off when their 3YO gets pancreatic cancer. So fucking sick.
And this idiocy by the AAP is part of why I left years ago. There were no studies ever done to see if the jab decreases hospitalization of children from Covid, which has been rare since the start, and more rare since omicron emerged. When I saw their claim last week that children between 6 and 23 months should be vaccinated I rolled my eyes. Fortunately few kids in my area got the original version, no one is getting them now. They have lost all credibility with normal people. Unfortunately there are tons of physicians who apparently can’t wait to get their kid the latest version. I’ve seen them post and anyone who questions is immediately derided as anti science.
Let's not forget that the governing board for pediatricians ---- and I think all physicians' associations and governing boards ---- are also A-OK with sterilizing, no-going-back puberty blockers, mind-blowing opposite sex hormone injections, and Frankenstein's-monster-like mutilating surgeries for mentally and emotionally confused and vulnerable minor children. Pushing potentially injurious and possibly deadly Covid "vaccines" on children is NOTHING to them by comparison.
I know other pediatricians who feel the same way. My specialty is thankfully not primary care, but the amount of uncritical thinking and lockstep acceptance of shoddy “research” and “expert opinion” in organized medicine is depressing, to say the least. It’s like everything taught about the immune system in med school has been thrown out the window, and we must believe Pfizer and Astra Zeneca.
Efficacy? With mRNA shots being so new, and so many agendas at work, it's just really hard to know.
Let me offer at least some clarity: COVID-19 vaccines are 100% effective at generating revenue for drug companies, hospitals, doctors, medical associations, ad agencies and TV networks.
Any suggestion otherwise, I label disinformation. If you are spreading this disinformation, you are a dangerous crackpot, and should be held responsible for messing with the cash flow.
In 2002 I became eligible for Medicare Advantage. Prior to that I had piggybacked on my wife's school nurse insurance plan. Prior to that I never carried insurance. Paid out of pocket for doctors' visits which entailed being sown up or a prescription for anti-biotic for sinus infection.
Asked and encouraged by my primary care medicare doc to get the flu shot for the upcoming winter flu season during which I was sure to get this new Sars virus, I refused, then started investigating this new virus and the vaccines for it. That is when I learned about Dr. Ralph Baric and his 'patented' new virus that must have escaped his UNC labs. Found that the vaccines were only 12-20 percent effective. Being a school nurse my wife was exposed to every disease that came down the pike including all that was brought across the border to Las Vegas and central CA. She refused the vaccines for all her 22 years never getting ill. None of it rubbed off on me so I did not subcom to illness either. We both refused the Covid shots and with me in my 80's was exposed to the virus a lot. The kids and grandkids literally cried when re refused - we were going to die. Couldn't see the grand kids for two years. People my age I knew died, but from lack of proper treatment, not the bug itself, but from complications from other health issues. Guess, according to the crybaby's, I should be dead. Surprise! I just finished breaking off brick veneer and installing a new front door. Met the postman on the porch and he's surprised I'm still going at it. Told him I'm just getting started.
Good for you! I also didn't get the shots. I'm 83 but suffering from A-fib that was started when I succumbed to chemo after my first cancer diagnosis. It causes problems. I won't take any meds for it except propranalol and some Chinese herbs. It does slow me down though. Also scares me.
"But major medical associations warn that it’s still extremely important to get the vaccines, which protect . . . " the profits of the corporations that fund major medical associations.
Don’t forget the Big Food industry. The American Heart Association started endorsing seed oils way back when after getting “support” from the companies that made them.
New vax definition: 'A mystery, untested pharmacologic concoction that some "public health experts believe [may] provide short-term partial protection against [a generally minor] infection" while simultaneously damaging your immune system and causing you as-yet unknown harms.'
The term "expert" now elicits nothing but deep guffaws from me. They should be treated accordingly.
"An expert is a person who has made all the mistakes that can be made in a very narrow field." —Niels Bohr
^This!^
Experts warn that experts no longer have any credibility, and as a result, the health of the least healthy nation on earth--the nation experts have been advising for decades--is sure to decline.
They earned it!
I define “expert” thusly: “a paid liar that hides deceit in complexity.”
Excellent definition, Mr Rascal !
Forgive the pile-on:
EXPERT:
"One who knows more and more about less and less." — Ambrose Bierce
"An ordinary man away from home giving advice." — Oscar Wilde
"A man who has stopped thinking." — Frank Lloyd Wright
"One who can take something you already know and make it sound confusing." — anon.
"One who limits himself to his chosen mode of ignorance." — Elbert Hubbard
Excellent list, Irwin. You have just described most of the people who work for the corporate media.
“You have just described most of the people who work for the corporate media.”
Untrue.
Most of the so-called journalists in the MSM today have never known anything about anything. They only know their ideology and how to make all narratives about that.
Where some of those “experts” do know something about something, some of the time.
But of course, the ones that know something are not the ones cited by the corporate media, except when it happens to intersect with their narrative.
More like the staff members and, even more, the managers at Los Alamos Weapons Lab.
“At one small group meeting Thursday morning, two people broke down in tears, according to an employee who was present. At another meeting, a senior leader who has always stayed calm under pressure was visibly shaking, another scientist said.”
There are 150 comments before this one; I haven’t read most of them and no one will probably read this one so it won’t matter if I’m repeating something someone else already pointed out, but: the two “people” who broke down in tears and the “senior leader” who was shaking — we can safely assume all three were women, correct? Why are women who cannot control their emotions in senior scientific leadership positions in our government? To be clear, I’m not saying women as a class shouldn’t be in such positions, but I’m definitely saying that histrionic, emotionally incontinent left-wing women shouldn’t be.
I read your reply, Refenestrated. Perhaps your sentence needs to be expanded slightly in order to complete it, so as to read: “…histrionic, emotionally incontinent left-wing women shouldn’t be in positions of power or critical decision making”.
I’d hazard that sympathy for the weepy and/or terrified CDC employees is thin on the ground.
I’ve been sober (my own health decision) for six weeks. This, TFP story about online cultivation of nihilism, and several others I need not review, is testing my resolve. I’ve not succumbed, because it won’t help distract the devil’s work…
Hang in there. Walk away from the Internet for the weekend. It'll help. I might try to follow that advice myself. Experts say!
I walked away the week beginning August 17. My mood improved considerably. The problem - when I returned I had 500+ unread emails. No rest for the wicked, I guess.
I'm in the process of pouring one out for you....quitter!....:)
Thx for the grin, I needed that!
Rehab is for quitters!!!!
Seriously, I quit drinking at 50 as allergies to it worsened. I miss having one or two, don’t ever wish to get drunk again
But a little glow would be nice.
make that a double for me...i mean you RG
lolol. just let me know if you ever need my services again!
hope you're doing well!
you too RG
i get the sense that somebody somewhere is about to be thrown under the bus and is not too happy about it ;)
Walk barefoot in some grass, even a city park.....I'm serious.
Bill - I wouldn’t advise that in a park in California. Just sayin’..
Yes, I spent a couple hours recently watching videos of McArthur Park around the FedGov-ICE "raid" staged photo-op/psy op. L.A. Mayor Bass is a delusion liar.... Even 3rd world shitholes are cleaner & safer.... Well, except in India, maybe!....
But the fact remains, barefootin' in grass is very therapeutic....your neighbors lawn will suffice....
It's a minefield.
As soon as I’m home; I’m in NM at the moment—awesome clouds, no grass ;-)
Since you are on a self-corrective journey, I hate to bring this up. However, I've lived in NM since 1967. If anyone thinks those clouds are natural, they are disabused. The spraying here is relentless. What used to be clean air, such that TB patients were sent to NM to clear their lungs, is now sometimes rated poor and often has at least a rating of 48 for ozone by Accuweather. NWS lies about the status of the air quality. The faux environmental groups here claim the pollution is from "industry". NM has almost no industry. Though there are tourists driving, the population is 2.1 M in a 121,600 sq miles-5th largest state. The pollution sometimes makes for nice sunsets. The actual natural sunsets from years ago were more spectacular.
Congratulations. It really is “one day at a time.” Sorry for the cliché. Just keep going and stay away from sources of distress like the internet.
Try getting (mostly) horizontal with a nice big ice water. Big relax!
That name sounded familiar. Of course:
https://www.thewrap.com/new-york-times-covid-lab-leak-apoorva-mandavilli/
(May 27, 2021) NY Times COVID Reporter Deletes Tweet Claiming ‘Racist Roots’ of ‘Lab Leak Theory’ After Backlash; Apoorva Mandavilli says her deleted tweets were "badly phrased"
RACIST: Believing a virus escaped from a Chinese laboratory.
NOT RACIST: Believing a viral pandemic was caused because Chinese people like to eat bats and pangolins.
The Bigotry Accusation works like a Swiss Army Knife for our liberal gentry: They break it out on any occasion when they feel their authority being threatened and want to bully people into compliance.
Smart, ambitious foreigners know that once they come to the West they can get anxious, neurotic Europeans to do their bidding just by crying RACIST! (Sadly they're right.) Mandavilla immigrated here from India just to let us know how wicked, backwards and bigoted Americans are. She will go far, never starve, cash large checks while denouncing capitalism, and end up with an Ivy League sinecure (she's already been an NYU prof and gave the Yale School of Public Health’s 2023 Commencement speech).
White liberal guilt is a lucrative natural resource, bought and sold by the NYT and its ideological allies in media and academia.
Racist? Ralph Baric sure looks pudgy and white to me.
Wouldn’t it be fascinating to see his CIA file? It would probably make a lot of puzzle pieces fall into place.
Apporva should make a career decision to exit journalism.
Why should she? Grifter's found her groove.
I'm starting to get the feeling that these people are not going to apologize to us for all the damage they've done. Lol
75 years ago, during the Nuremberg trials, judges asked Hermann Göring (Hitters right hand) how they made Germany accept all the madness. He said: 'The only thing a government needs to turn people into slaves, is FEAR. If you can find something to make them afraid, you can make them do whatever you want.'
Goring did it with radio. It was mandated that every home had had a radio that picked up all 2 or 3 of the Nazi programming.
Now they use The NYT.
Or NPR
In Canada it’s the CBC
Bingo.
Hence, the "success" of the COVID lockdowns.
"public health experts believe updated shots provide short-term partial protection against infection"
This reads so much like Marketing copy it's insane. It's deliberately vague. They're clearly afraid one of the few remaining mouth breathers is going to sue their balls off when their 3YO gets pancreatic cancer. So fucking sick.
Anything for that dollar, it seems. Sickening
The "Church of Scientism" is the only religion these people follow. They certainly don't follow Jesus Christ.
L. Ron Fauci.
You win the internet today
🙌 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
Amen!
And this idiocy by the AAP is part of why I left years ago. There were no studies ever done to see if the jab decreases hospitalization of children from Covid, which has been rare since the start, and more rare since omicron emerged. When I saw their claim last week that children between 6 and 23 months should be vaccinated I rolled my eyes. Fortunately few kids in my area got the original version, no one is getting them now. They have lost all credibility with normal people. Unfortunately there are tons of physicians who apparently can’t wait to get their kid the latest version. I’ve seen them post and anyone who questions is immediately derided as anti science.
Let's not forget that the governing board for pediatricians ---- and I think all physicians' associations and governing boards ---- are also A-OK with sterilizing, no-going-back puberty blockers, mind-blowing opposite sex hormone injections, and Frankenstein's-monster-like mutilating surgeries for mentally and emotionally confused and vulnerable minor children. Pushing potentially injurious and possibly deadly Covid "vaccines" on children is NOTHING to them by comparison.
🎯
Sure there were. They just did not yield the only acceptable result.
I know other pediatricians who feel the same way. My specialty is thankfully not primary care, but the amount of uncritical thinking and lockstep acceptance of shoddy “research” and “expert opinion” in organized medicine is depressing, to say the least. It’s like everything taught about the immune system in med school has been thrown out the window, and we must believe Pfizer and Astra Zeneca.
I think you could simply say "There were no studies ever done" and that would cover everything.
Efficacy? With mRNA shots being so new, and so many agendas at work, it's just really hard to know.
Let me offer at least some clarity: COVID-19 vaccines are 100% effective at generating revenue for drug companies, hospitals, doctors, medical associations, ad agencies and TV networks.
Any suggestion otherwise, I label disinformation. If you are spreading this disinformation, you are a dangerous crackpot, and should be held responsible for messing with the cash flow.
Honestly they’re not done harming us while there’s breath in their bodies.
I know. They won’t stop till they are made to stop. Not sure what that will look like. Likely won’t be pretty.
The young men of America are our survival and deliverance, don’t misunderstand.
The Left? The Boomers perish wretchedly.
The young Left are contemptible.
They’re just getting warmed up.
They’re perishing wretchedly as they lived.
Tis the young men that come now, but if they come even as Mongols it’s an improvement.
In 2002 I became eligible for Medicare Advantage. Prior to that I had piggybacked on my wife's school nurse insurance plan. Prior to that I never carried insurance. Paid out of pocket for doctors' visits which entailed being sown up or a prescription for anti-biotic for sinus infection.
Asked and encouraged by my primary care medicare doc to get the flu shot for the upcoming winter flu season during which I was sure to get this new Sars virus, I refused, then started investigating this new virus and the vaccines for it. That is when I learned about Dr. Ralph Baric and his 'patented' new virus that must have escaped his UNC labs. Found that the vaccines were only 12-20 percent effective. Being a school nurse my wife was exposed to every disease that came down the pike including all that was brought across the border to Las Vegas and central CA. She refused the vaccines for all her 22 years never getting ill. None of it rubbed off on me so I did not subcom to illness either. We both refused the Covid shots and with me in my 80's was exposed to the virus a lot. The kids and grandkids literally cried when re refused - we were going to die. Couldn't see the grand kids for two years. People my age I knew died, but from lack of proper treatment, not the bug itself, but from complications from other health issues. Guess, according to the crybaby's, I should be dead. Surprise! I just finished breaking off brick veneer and installing a new front door. Met the postman on the porch and he's surprised I'm still going at it. Told him I'm just getting started.
Robert Shannon— cheers!
Good for you! I also didn't get the shots. I'm 83 but suffering from A-fib that was started when I succumbed to chemo after my first cancer diagnosis. It causes problems. I won't take any meds for it except propranalol and some Chinese herbs. It does slow me down though. Also scares me.
Keep on keepin' on.
"But major medical associations warn that it’s still extremely important to get the vaccines, which protect . . . " the profits of the corporations that fund major medical associations.
That protection is full, unlike the partial protection against whatever we were told it was for.
Don’t forget the Big Food industry. The American Heart Association started endorsing seed oils way back when after getting “support” from the companies that made them.
New vax definition: 'A mystery, untested pharmacologic concoction that some "public health experts believe [may] provide short-term partial protection against [a generally minor] infection" while simultaneously damaging your immune system and causing you as-yet unknown harms.'
'Please sir, may I have another?!'
"All spoke on condition of anonymity ..." is the antithesis of having the "courage of their convictions."
And they wonder why such a large portion of society has lost all faith in the medical profession!
We need to come up with new words for real experts and real scientists. Those who currently carry the titles have made those terms meaningless.