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JT's avatar

Ya gotta wonder who provided Marx with the food he ate while he was busy coming up with these brilliant ideas?

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Rikard's avatar

To be fair to Marx, he wasn't alone in reasoning like he did, re: leisure and personal development. Remember that when he wrote his stuff, the poorest parts of London had an infant mortality rate of 300/1 000 births. Not even Biafra, not even Calcutta during famine attained that - only liberal capitalist industrial nations managed something like that.

What was envisioned, and not only by him and certainly not only by communists was a future (or rather; Future) where machines did all dirty, dangerous labour and where that machine labour made people free to develop themselves. They did not take evolution into account: without some kind of selection pressure, progress isn't made but regress and degeneration quickly become the norm.

There must be both the hope of a carrot, and an actual carrot on offer, and a better one than you've currently get at that, and even worse - it must be a real offer, a real and realistic proposition of a better carrot and it must be fair, or people /will/ start "checking out" in various ways, and it doesn't matter one iota what -ism is the paradigm at hand.

Except if it allows for social darwinism, or actual impartial meritocracy - and those two are only ever nice if you are reasonable sure you'd be on the right side of the line.

"To be fair to Marx. . ." Feels like I need a shower, "Crying Game"-style.

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